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  1. JemPD

    JemPD Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Hi all, I wonder if someone can help me out pls....

    8yrs after ME onset I got PTSD. I am working with a new community psych nurse to give me support for it. She has minimal knowledge about ME & has expressed an interest in finding out a bit about it - she was asking me what treatment was available/i was getting for it.
    So i'm trying to cobble together some basic bits for her - she has very minimal time to spend.

    I told her i'd give her the MEA's purple book, but although it's great it is quite dense if all you want is the basics & i think there's a strong risk she'll be overfaced & just not read it.
    So i'm planning on giving her a copy for the office in case she wants to follow up, but just photocopying some key paragraphs about prognosis, quality of life etc so there is just a few pages to look at on the top & she can delve further if she wants to.
    I'm going to also include the summary from the recent BMJ best practice guide on top.

    But i also want to include a few key paragraphs from the IOM report (especially that great statement about it not being psychological), & David Tuller's open letter with all those signatories discrediting PACE, ( just in case she starts discussing it with anyone else & gets told a load of PACE twaddle).

    But I wondered if i could ask for help from anyone here pls in finding the links to that key paragraph from the IOM report - I've seen it loads of times but when i google i get so much info & results its difficult for my foggy brain to sift through it all, & i need it quite soon, so i wondered if anyone here had a link at their fingertips?
    for that and David's Open letter? - there's such a lot on the virology blog & i know the letter went through several updates, & im so foggy i cant seem to find what i'm looking for.

    I had it all bookmarked before but my laptop crashed last mnth & i lost the lot :-/
    Can anyone please help me out if they have the links handy?
    Also if anyone has any suggestions of anything else i should include pls let me know.

    thanks hopefully
    Jem
     
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  2. Graham

    Graham Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Virology blog is putting together a list of contents which may be useful to folk in the future (http://www.virology.ws/table-of-contents/), but David Tuller's second letter to The Lancet is here (http://www.virology.ws/2016/02/10/open-letter-lancet-again/).

    You might like the "key facts" summary on the IoM report (http://www.nationalacademies.org/hmd/~/media/Files/Report Files/2015/MECFS/MECFS_KeyFacts.pdf).

    Is this the quote you wanted from the report?
    Conclusion: It is clear from the evidence compiled by the committee that ME/CFS is a serious, chronic, complex, and multisystem disease that frequently and dramatically limits the activities of affected patients.

    It is at the bottom of page 209.
     
  3. JemPD

    JemPD Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Thanks so much Graham.
    That doesn't have all 102 signatories listed that eventually ended up on that letters, or maybe it was a different letter, it's all a blur to me now, but & i especially wanted her to see all those signatories because there is at least 1 psychiatrist working in a UK NHS hospital, listed. It was definitely about PACE & it was definitely an Open Letter. There were a lot of people who added their names after it went out & i cant find it, i know it exists because i printed it out to give to someone at some point :confused:


    Thanks. The IOM paragraph I'm thinking of is longer than that, it specifically references something about it not being psychological or something, i'm sure i saw the word psychological/psychogenic (or some word beginning with psych at any rate, ha).
     
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    JemPD Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Oh! I found it, the open letter, it's the one to Psychological Medicine about the recovery paper from PACE :)

    for anyone else who's interested it's here
    http://www.virology.ws/2017/03/23/an-open-letter-to-psychological-medicine-again/

    "That the editors of Psychological Medicine do not grasp that it is impossible to be “disabled” and “recovered” simultaneously on an outcome measure is astonishing and deeply troubling."

    Indeed!
     
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