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"Impostors" in Psychiatry

Discussion in 'PsychoSocial ME/CFS News' started by Inara, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. Inara

    Inara Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    No, this is not about psychiatrists as impostors - although it could be :D - but about people who pretended to have a degree in psychiatry and got - partly central - positions in a clinic.

    A TV part (ZDF) about Alexandra Beek who pretended to have a PhD and was a psychiatrist two years in Wuppertal and then in Berlin (in the "Wilhelm Sander House", a highly secured forensic prison).

    Here's the source, with a video in German: https://www.zwangspsychiatrie.de/2017/06/beweis-forensik-psychiater-wissen-gar-nix/

    There's a third impostor, Henry T. It seems, his story was in "BILD" and "Focus online" (two big magazines). I found it here: https://www.zwangspsychiatrie.de/2017/10/psychiatrie-alles-nur-hochstapler/
    Henry T. was previously diagnosed with a psychiatric illness, and then himself became a psychiatrist in the East Frisian Ubbo-Emmius clinic (who is known to apply forced treatments, like electro shocks).

    The first was Gert Postel, who did the same and succeeded.

    Maybe the Rosenhan experiment is already known:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment

    Edit: Unfortunately, this doesn't change psychiatry's power, which - to me - proves it's not about objectivity but politics.
     
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    large donner Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    You mean there are real qualifications in psychiatry?
     
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  3. Inara

    Inara Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Well, officially you have to make certain certificates, e.g. study psychology or medicine (and then psychiatry).

    But those examples show you needn't study at all. :) You just have to learn their way of speaking.
     
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    You mean bullshit?
     
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    Inara Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yeah :D

    (Well, to be fair, there are certain interesting parts of psychology...but psychiatry is not.)
     
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    I saw some in a jumble sale a while back. Job lot. :angelic::)
     
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  8. Inara

    Inara Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    That story is just hilarious! :laugh: the question obviously is who is the "sick" one: the psychiatrist or his "patient"? Reminds me of Freud, Jung, ...

    In Germany it's so easy to get psychopharmaceuticals, i.e. no false pretenses needed. :D
     
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    Why spend money if you can create certificates all on your own?
     
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    It's a religion and as such only requires initiation by other members of the priesthood. As a faith, of course they needn't check facts!
     
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