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Heterodox and Orthodox Discourses in the Case of Lyme Disease: A Synthesis of Arguments, 2019, Hinds and Sutcliffe

Discussion in 'Infections: Lyme, Candida, EBV ...' started by Andy, May 14, 2019.

  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member & Outreach

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    Hampshire, UK
    Paywall, https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1049732319846170
    Sci hub, https://sci-hub.se/10.1177/1049732319846170
  2. duncan

    duncan Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    A confused pretzel that imagines it's a straight line?
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  3. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I didn't catch the straight line part.
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  4. Hutan

    Hutan Moderator Staff Member

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    Nope, we don't react because of the stigma.

    We react because the idea doesn't fit with our experience. In my case, the idea that three previously active, generally happy people in my family without any history of psychological issues suddenly became ill at the same time and stayed ill for an extended period/indefinitely because of some shared buried trauma or some sort of secondary gain or some fear of something just doesn't make sense.

    We react because treatments based on a psychosomatic explanation don't work.
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  5. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yeah, the reaction would be the same if the suggestion was demons, wichcraft or aliens. Wrong is wrong. If you go to a group of diabetics and tell them their disease is actually caused by a fear of sugar you will get the exact same WTF? reaction as we have. It has nothing to do with why it's wrong, wrong is wrong because it contradicts our experience. It's not leprechauns, miasma, karma or any other wrong thing.

    The whole "you just don't like it because it says it's psychological" is literally a thought-terminating cliché. Those are universally bad and shouldn't even have to be challenged anymore. It's freaking $CURRENT_YEAR and we still have to remind people that it's not about their little person, they're just wrong, period.

    Especially the whole "exercise and you'll be fine" when so many of us have not only tried that but were very active, driven, passionate people who did not and still do not need external motivation to get moving. That has not left us or changed. We still want to do those things, we just can't. This is all so stupid.
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