Trial Report Explanation for symptoms and biographical repair in a clinic for persistent physical symptoms, 2024, Burton

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    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2667321524000477

    SSM - Qualitative Research in Health
    Available online 21 April 2024, 100438
    In Press, Journal Pre-proof

    Explanation for symptoms and biographical repair in a clinic for persistent physical symptoms
    Tom Sanders, Kate Fryer, Monica Greco, Cara Mooney, Vincent Deary, Christopher Burton
    https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ssmqr.2024.100438
    open access

    Highlights

    • Persistent physical symptoms lead to biographical disruption

    • Absence of an explanation for these symptoms blocks biographical repair

    • Extended role GPs co-produced multi-layered explanations for symptoms with patients

    • Explanations were acceptable and opened new opportunities for action and learning

    • Explanation of persistent symptoms facilitated biographical repair.

    Abstract

    Introduction

    Biographical disruption describes the process by which illness impacts not just on a person’s body and their participation in activities, but also on their sense of self. Biographical disruption is often followed by a process of biographical repair in which identity is reconstructed and a new normality is restored. People with persistent physical symptoms (sometimes referred to as medically unexplained symptoms) experience biographical disruption. This can be complicated by lack of explanation and the implication that if the problem is not medical, then it might be the person/psychological. We aimed to examine this tension in people attending a novel “Symptoms Clinic” for people with persistent physical symptoms.

    Methods
    This study reports an embedded qualitative study in a UK based randomised controlled trial. Data were collected by audio recordings of consultations and semi-structured interviews with patients. We used theoretically informed thematic analysis with regular coding and discussion meetings of the analysis team. This analysis explores the role of intervention components in facilitating biographical repair.

    Results
    The lack of acceptable explanation for persistent symptoms acted as a block to biographical repair. In the clinic, multi-layered explanations were offered and negotiated that viewed persistent symptoms as understandable entities rather than as indicators of something still hidden. These explanations allowed study participants to make sense of their symptoms and in turn opened new opportunities for self-management. The result was that participants were able to reframe their symptoms in a way that enabled them to see themselves differently. Even if symptoms had not yet improved, there was a sense of being better. This can be understood as a process of biographical repair.

    Conclusion
    Explaining persistent physical symptoms enables biographical repair.

    Keywords
    Biographical repair
    Persistent physical symptoms
    primary care
    Biographical disruption
    Symptoms clinic
    qualitative research
     
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    Ugh. That's a new one - biographical repair.

    Yet another way to get patients to believe some nonsense and in consequence to pretend they have recovered and to stop bothering doctors.

    How to lie to patients and get away with it.
     
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    No, it's the lack of acceptance by society that blocks biographical repair. They could say that it's a terrible disease without treatments and that patients are doing their best. But instead we get this minimizing and psychologizing behaviour that assigns to patients the role of the lazy, undeserving person that could achieve if only they overcame themselves.
     
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    So, by their own admission, just alternative medicine based on pseudoscience that treats nothing. And the point of this is? Ah, the same old "feel a bit better", which is asinine to the point of being insane in this context.

    Is "multi-layered explanation" a new code word for bullshit? Because it sure substitutes perfectly.

    And as is tradition, always novel, always exactly the same as before. Someone has a problem dealing with internal issues here, and it's not the patients. Their description of the patient experience dealing with illness is just comically inept. It's so mediocre, they understand nothing of it. There have been absolute monarchs who understood the lives of the lowest peasant under their rule better than this crap.

    Of course the sense of self is affected by the illness and the limitations it imposes. Patients have been telling these fools for decades, and common sense dictates it, but they'd rather choose their own interpretation based on some vain pursuit of who knows what.

    I don't even know what to make of how ridiculous it is that they think the lack of explanation causes disruption, rather than untreated illness and lack of support. This is the same model they've been trying for decades and they just don't care to change anything about it, just have no useful understanding of illness, how it affects people and why.

    Also, bizarre definition of acceptable:
    I guess it just means, what, not insulting? If it's not appropriate it can't be acceptable. This is ridiculous.

    Ugh. It's really hard to slog through this clownish nonsense. It's so mediocre and hubristic.
     
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    Have they used a questionair to find out the results?
     
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    For ME, and used in this interventional way, it does sound...ugh.

    The concept itself can be useful; it's sometimes used to describe the process people undergo after a late (by about 50 years in my case) diagnosis for autism. It's mostly a personal journey, where some past events and outcomes are reframed in the light of new knowledge.

    My first was in respect of ME, as I'd been ill for 23 years without understanding that the different patterns of symptoms I'd had at different times were all part of the same thing, and it was an illness, not just me being feeble.

    There was no "sense of being better", though. One of the most valuable things it gave me was a vocabulary to describe it, which I'd lacked before.
     
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    I have read the paper. It seems to me that all they are doing is spending a bit longer than usual with patients to take a detailed medical history, then waffling on a bit about sympathetic/parasympathetic balance and the brain, then going on to suggested actions such as breathing exercises to calm the flight or fight response.

    It seems from the bits they quoted that the explanations were not based, and not particularly intended to be based in science, rather to tell a story where the patient was told to accept they had a chronic condition, not to try to seek further explanation, and that they could take some control over their symptoms by their own actions. I don't get the impression patients symptoms actually improved.
     
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    It's a bit like the quotes on Have I Got News for You from
    Scottish Plasticine Enthusiasts Weekly

    How anyone can publish something like this and not then immediately drown themselves in a distant mountain tarn I have no idea.
     
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    This is a sub study within Burton's big study that seems to have been going on for years.
     
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    yup
     
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    I'll have a stab at translating:
    biographical, meaning - the story of a person's life

    repair, meaning - restore (something damaged, faulty, or worn) to a good condition:

    from the paper - "in which identity is reconstructed and a new normality is restored"

    Sort your beliefs emotions and fears out, you're deconditioned, there ya good - good as new.

    Thank you so much a feel I lot better now

    o_O:asleep:
     
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    This analysis of one interview is too much:

    One of the other big things is also getting friends and family and work to understand what's wrong with you [mmm]. You feel, I’ve felt many times that I'm just a fraud [mmm] and that I'm just er, work shy, lazy, hypochondriac (S10 048).

    The lack of explanation meant that, in addition to the work of living with their illness, patients felt they had to work hard at being credibly ill in the eyes of others so as to avoid stigmatisation, or the spoiling of their identity (Goffman, 1963). Part of this work to retain coherence and credibility involved an ongoing effort to make sense of the symptoms. Patients searched for explanations based on scientific research (using online or other media sources), and sought to link these to elements of their own biography in order to “at least create a bit of meaning”
     
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    Biographical repair from the same people who keep the foot on the neck via misinformation that means we live in epistemic injustice where everyone at best thinks we are fatigued? and maybe doing mindfulness or all these additional exertions will be useful?

    to quote three men and a little lady's best: "what a croc"

    This is of course just a propaganda piece for disability bigotry.

    Noone who doesn't 'want to believe someone's symptoms' or want to believe they couldn't fix them themselves by doing something different and acting normal would read this tosh.

    This sounds very much like someone who is looking to add further epistemic injustice by attempting to pretend if someone isn't able to return to work because their illness becomes unnnecessarily worse, they don't get adjustments in time or health care and so on then somehow that is that person's 'identity' or 'choice' rather than delibate and true blocks being put in their way? So that again more elements of their story are not heard?


    If only people could ask for their money back from these people who somehow get tenure.

    The issue is even if it isn't ME/CFS these people who have drifted themselves into psychosomatic nonsense get to keep their jobs as long as they churn out somethign and you aren't going to move into an area where there is real peer review and methodology if you were the type who chose to go into the area with the 'easy life'.

    And noone else wants them or wants this near them.

    I struggle to believe that we allow this in the formats it is produced, without warnings or requiring peer review from non-bigots etc, given how obvious bigotry and propaganda it is.

    These are just vehicles for people who don't really have treatments, or anything interesting to say, to sew into an article another load of tripe saying the symptoms are 'persisitent' and here is our narrative on them instead of the truth?


    I don't even dare look at what the 'layered explanations' might be???

    why would a profession that pretends it does science be so obsessed with feeding lies to the masses just because they assume they are thick? like the brain chemistry stuff on anti-depressants. A spoonful of lies hey
     
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    patients felt they had to work hard at being credibly ill in the eyes of others so as to avoid stigmatisation, or the spoiling of their identity (Goffman, 1963).​

    It's just the feels at work here, folks. Nothing much to see, move along.

    I wonder why patients might 'feel' that way? Couldn't possibly be because that is how the world really views and treats us, and how we have to respond, continuously, to try to manage the failure of others to respond in a constructive, or at least no destructive, manner?

    Far from helping destigmatise, such mischaracterisation and underhanded downplaying only makes it worse.

    And who is responsible for society having that view of us, dear medicine?

    But The Power of the Narrative!

    amirite?
     
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