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Donation to Tuller/research as respond to our critics

Discussion in 'Advocacy Projects and Campaigns' started by Kalliope, Apr 9, 2018.

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Which slogan/hashtag do you prefer used on social media when donating to ME as response in debates?

Poll closed Apr 21, 2018.
  1. #RealScience4pwME

    4 vote(s)
    18.2%
  2. #donate4MEscience

    2 vote(s)
    9.1%
  3. #MEScience

    2 vote(s)
    9.1%
  4. #GoFundMEScience

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. #IDonatedToMEScience

    2 vote(s)
    9.1%
  6. #Justice4ME

    7 vote(s)
    31.8%
  7. #JustScience4ME

    2 vote(s)
    9.1%
  8. #RealScientistsRealScience

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. #ScienceNotScientism

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. #CanYouSeeMENow

    3 vote(s)
    13.6%
  1. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    #goodScience4PwME ?

    Avoiding lots of capitals in case some PwME find that to over the top?
     
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  2. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    I thought I liked this one until I had a passing thought - does 'real science for ME' imply just 'science for ME' on its own (ie this forum) is not real, or not real science or in some way fake?

    A bit like 'real Donald Trump' used to distinguish his twitter from the fakers. (sorry to lower the tone).
     
  3. Alvin

    Alvin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    If your using it against PACErs its saying they are peddling alternative facts and we want reality
     
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  4. Invisible Woman

    Invisible Woman Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Right now it's David Tullers campaign that needs funding. Should we just focus on that first?

    Could we start with something like #Tuller4ME or something to make the most of the current short window of opportunity and think of something else for the longer term?

    With David's permission of course.
     
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  5. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yes, I agree that right now the focus is on Tuller's fundraising. But I am thinking that a more general hashtag might be better instead of creating a new one when Tuller's campaign is over. The campaign is donating to research (and Tuller) as a response to tweets/articles etc from the biopsychosocio-crowd. When Tuller's crowdfunding is over, one can use the same hashtag and donate to OMF, InvestinME, SolveMECFS etc etc.
     
  6. Melanie

    Melanie Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I like this one too.
     
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  7. Snowdrop

    Snowdrop Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Or two hashtags that are short and make the point: #ImWithTuller #biosci4ME
     
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  8. Allele

    Allele Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    #ActualScience
     
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  9. MeSci

    MeSci Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    #MEScience? (I don't know anything about tags!)
     
  10. Indigophoton

    Indigophoton Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I like the #real/actualscience4me options, but the Norwegian campaign simply uses #trollmessage, and doesn't refer to refugees. Everyone can relate to the idea of a troll message, and sympathise/empathise - no explanation required.

    Since the BPS advocates are effectively trolling ME patients, maybe something similar that helps raise sympathy and awareness? #trolledME ?
     
  11. Louie41

    Louie41 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    #4MEScience?

    I wonder if use of PwME in any form will be confusing for people who support us, but aren't conversant with that term.

    Think this is a great idea, by the way, @Kalliope! :thumbup::thumbup:
     
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  12. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yes. I see your point. Using PWME will result in two things to get across instead of one.

    #Donating2ME ...perhaps..
     
  13. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    True - we can use whatever words we want and make is super simple. The Refugee Council needed a campaign (and to spend a lot of money) to get across what #Trollmelding indicates. We don't have such resources, so a hashtag which is easy to understand, like and support is important.

    There are so many creative people here, so I'm sure we'll come up with something :)
     
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  14. Invisible Woman

    Invisible Woman Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    not sure about that one. It sounds a little selfish and might feed into the needy, weak, attention seeking ME patient narrative.

    I do like #trolledME @Indigophoton!
     
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  15. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I see your point.

    Regarding Troll.. I don't know how constructive it is to characterise people/meanings with that label in the ME-debate. I'd like the message to be pro science for ME and a way to calm waters rather than heating things further.
     
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  16. Louie41

    Louie41 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Don 't want my suggestion to get lost in the point about PwME.;)

    #4MEScience?
     
  17. JemPD

    JemPD Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    #GoFundMEScience ?

    #MEscienceWorks?
     
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  18. mango

    mango Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Using capitals to separate words in hashtags is very important for screen readers (apps etc that convert text into synthesized speech) to function properly.

    Having said that, I agree. The simpler the better :)

    ETA: Brilliant idea/thread, @Kalliope! Definitely worth a try! I would join in, use the hashtag and donate :)
     
  19. ScottTriGuy

    ScottTriGuy Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    #TruthTuller
     
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  20. dave30th

    dave30th Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Any hashtag should go for the larger message and not include my name, I think.
     

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