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Do I have now ME next to Sjogren or only Sjogren?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia and Connective Tissue Disorders' started by alalush, Jul 5, 2019.

  1. alalush

    alalush Established Member

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    Hi,

    I became sick in 2014 with very long list of symptoms: extreme fatigue, tinnitus, burning sensations, unrefreshing sleep, 247 chronic headache (pressure inside head), neck pain, osteopenia, gut dysbiosis, anxiety, dizzyness attacks, high BP, muscle weakness, back pains, blood pooling, ...
    I was treated first for suspected Lyme Disease (1 year) with no improvements. Then I was treated mainly for gut dysbiosis and SIBO (4 years, multiple pulsed regimens ABX: rifaximin, flagyl, azithromycin, clindamycin, ...)
    Because I had often dry mouth and sometimes annoying eye pains I did a lip biopsy which was positive for Sjogren (focus score 2). Other tests also point out to pSS.

    Main question: do I have now only primary Sjogrens syndrome? Does the ME diagnosis now is erased?

    Brief history illness:
    2014: after vaccination (Hep A, Difteria, Tetanus) extreme fatigue, tinnitus, 247 headaches, variable complaints, burning sensations, slimming 65kg to 55kg, gluten intolerant, CFS, fibromyalgia, anxiety ...
    2016: cardiac check negative, osteoporosis/osteopenia -2.9 T scores
    2019: positive lip biopsy for Sjogren (focus score >2), Anti-SSA/ro, ANA, ENA, ANF positive, small-fiber neuropathy biopsy positive (2,09 izv/mm), Complement (C3) has fallen discreetly, normal ESR, normal CKs
     
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  2. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi @alalush. I'm afraid we cannot diagnose each other - our rules don't allow asking for or offering a diagnosis - that needs to be done by a doctor who has your full medical history and examines you and does the necessary tests to eliminate other possibilities.

    There are various guidelines for doctors to help them with diagnosis - it depends which country you are in which guidelines they will use. I hope you can find a doctor with some understanding of ME who can help you.
     
  3. alalush

    alalush Established Member

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    Yes, I was just wondering because according to the Fukuda criteria for ME, if one finds Sjogren in a patient, the diagnosis of ME is not applicable anymore.
     
  4. TigerLilea

    TigerLilea Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I think that is a very outdated idea. I've had ME for 28 years, however, my Sjogren's positive blood work is very recent.
     
  5. adambeyoncelowe

    adambeyoncelowe Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I would reframe the question slightly: does an ME diagnosis help you or not, at this point? Unlike pSS, ME doesn't have any treatment that shows efficacy.

    Will you get treatment options with an ME diagnosis that you can't access with pSS? Or will a pSS diagnosis mean you'll be told to do more exercise, which could worsen your ME?

    If an ME diagnosis helps you, then keep it. If it causes more problems, such as stigma or requirement to engage in treatments you don't want to (GET, for example), then maybe it's worth getting it overturned.

    Only you can decide what's right for you. Until we have a biomarker, we can't be 100% sure anyway.
     
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  6. alalush

    alalush Established Member

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    Treatment options for pSS are very poor in my opinion. Based on my current biochemistry I could probably only get Plaquenil to try. Other meds such as corticoids or Rituximab are only given when organs are attacked or severe inflammation (CRP, elevated ESR...).
    There are some studies where pSS patients with SFN get IVIG and it helped some but not in trials unfortunately.
     
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