DecodeME in the media

The interview @dave30th did with @Chris Ponting is brilliant. I extracted the audio which may make it easier for some to listen to and am sharing it with his kind permission here


The interview really gives a great overview of the project and findings with insightful questions. It’s accessible and I’m sharing it with friends and family to help them understand (along with the great blog post by @Simon M of course).

I did laugh at the description of the patient community, and couldn’t help but think it may have been influenced by Chris perhaps looking at these forums…

Edit: I wasn’t sure if uploading the file to the forums would work better or what file size/bandwidth implications may be, so put it on pcloud. I converted to low bitrate so it’s only 6MB, I can attach it here directly if that’s ok/easier for people.
 
I've gone through this thread so far and summarised all the media so far for posting in the News in Brief this weekend.
In case it's helpful, here's what we have so far:

DecodeME website
Initial DecodeME DNA Results
A brief article that summarises the main findings, including: "Eight genetic signals have been identified... The signals discovered are involved in the immune and the nervous systems, indicating immunological and neurological causes to this poorly understood disease...These signals align with how people with ME/CFS describe their illness... Another likely gene is related to chronic pain. None are related to depression or anxiety."

FAQ page answers some frequently asked questions, including "How definite are these results?"
DecodeME blog: X marks the spot where ME/CFS biology can be discovered
Gives a clear explaination for non-scientists of the study's methods, findings and implications for future research.
"The genetic signals are like crosses on a treasure map, pointing to hidden biology."
Article | Thread

Press release University of Edinburgh
Key genetic differences found in people with ME/CFS
"Scientists have discovered that people diagnosed with ME/CFS have significant differences in their DNA, offering the first robust evidence that genes contribute to a person’s chance of developing the disease."
Outlines the findings clearly and the implications. Includes quotes from the three project leaders, Chris Ponting, Andy Devereux-Cooke and Sonya Chowdhury.
Press release | Thread

Science media

New Scientist Key genetic differences found in people with chronic fatigue syndrome

Science Possible genetic clues to ME/chronic fatigue syndrome identified in massive study
DNA analysis of more than 15,500 people with the debilitating condition identifies eight tentative “genetic signals”
Accompanied by a photo of an empty shoes Millions Missing protest, Science provides a thorough article outlining the research, its findings, quotes from the press conference and the next steps.
"Action for ME and the University of Edinburgh are spearheading another project, PRIME, set to launch in October with nearly £850,000 of U.K. government funding. That work aims to generate new research collaborations into the genetics and disease mechanisms of ME/CFS, as well as improve patient and public involvement in research."

Live Science Huge study of ME/CFS reveals genetic 'hotspots' linked to the debilitating syndrome
A large study of ME/CFS included more than 15,000 people and identified eight locations in the genome linked to the disease.

Science Media Centre expert reaction to unpublished preprint on the DecodeME genome-wide association study of ME/CFS
Dr Jackie Cliff "By providing solid biological evidence of disease-susceptibility, this study should stimulate vigorous research in the ME/CFS area."
Prof Alan Carson makes an unhelpful comment that misreports the diagnostic basis of participants in the study.
Dr Alena Pance "This is a great advance towards understanding the illness better and most importantly towards developing diagnostic tools to facilitate appropriate healthcare."
Dr Amy Mason "Interestingly they find no evidence that depression and ME/CFS have shared genetic links, but do find evidence of both pain and the immune system being involved. This fits with what patients often report and helps shift the narrative; ME/CFS is not psychosomatic but linked to measurable differences in genes affecting pain and immunity."

General media

Channel 4 News Nine minute segment on publication day, 6th August
Quote from Broken Battery who provide the YouTube copy:
"The segment includes interviews with study lead Prof Chris Ponting, a patient participant, and Sonia Chowdhury from Action for ME. It also revisits the case of Maeve Boothby O’Neill, who died of malnutrition due to severe ME, highlighting the urgent need for better NHS care. MP Tessa Munt calls for increased government funding and recognition of MECFS as a serious, medically proven illness."

BBC Scotland TV News at 7 Six minute recording and notes by Broken Battery
"The report features patient Amanda Stevenson, who shares how the illness has shaped her life and the lack of treatment options in Scotland. Prof Chris Ponting explains how this breakthrough could finally shift stigma and drive further research."

BBC Radio 4 Today program: 6 minutes recorded and described by Broken Battery
"Professor Chris Ponting explains how researchers identified eight regions in human DNA linked to increased risk of developing ME/CFS, marking a turning point in scientific understanding.The segment also includes 19-year-old Lucy, who describes how difficult it was to be taken seriously when she first became ill at age 11."

BBC Radio 5 live Hour long phone in program

The Times Breakthrough genetic study offers treatment hope for ME patients
Experts say ‘groundbreaking’ findings will be transformative as well as helping to end myth that the condition is ‘all in the mind’
"Ponting said the study would enable medical researchers to have a “laser-like” focus on where to target treatments or repurpose existing drugs at a “breakneck speed”. He added: “I’m actually quite angry that this [genetic analysis] was not done 15 years ago, just like for every other major disease.”"

The Guardian Scientists find link between genes and ME/chronic fatigue syndrome
Large study suggests people’s genetics could ‘tip the balance’ on whether they would develop the illness

The Telegraph ME is a real illness, genetic study shows
Breakthrough provides ‘credibility and validity’ for sufferers of the disease known as chronic fatigue syndrome

The Independent The key genetic difference ME sufferers have from others – and what it means
Scientists said the findings offer the first robust evidence that genes contribute to a person’s chance of developing the disease

Financial Times Chronic fatigue patients have different genes, study finds

Reuters Repeat Carson's SMC misdescription of inclusion criteria.

Eastern Daily Times

If anyone wants to go through this and let me know if I've missed anything, either complete items or useful short quotes that are worth highlighting, let me know.
Only one point: Science Media Centre is listed under Science Media. I know there is Science in their name, but they promote mostly quackery, so should they not be mentioned under regular media?
 
Only one point: Science Media Centre is listed under Science Media. I know there is Science in their name, but they promote mostly quackery, so should they not be mentioned under regular media?
Not all science media is necessarily good media. In this case 3 of the 4 comments are good comments by scientists. The other is an ignorant comment by a clinician with prejudiced views.
 
A big newspaper in Denmark, Politiken, has a paywalled article about the study titled translated into English "Surprising breakthrough in severe illness: "We now know that a person's genetics can tip the balance".

 

Fantastic interview. Thanks to @dave30th and @Chris Ponting

It's aimed at those who want a bit more detail. Here are things that I think are new, or haven't had much attention yet:
  • Prereiew: DecodeME sent out the draft preprint to independent researchers ahead for publication ti get feedback and spot any errors, and improved the manuscript accordingly. They also got good feedback from international authors (presumably of the preprint, not sure exactly who this refers to).
  • Future work includes comparing ME with other illnesses, but to date they have found no significant overlap, other than chronic pain.
  • DT asked Chris if he was concerned people had overinterpreted results, particularly in terms of 'treatments tomorrow'. But Chris said he had been impressed how unhyped the response had been. And that quite a few PwME had a good grasp of the science (think he said, saw the findings the same way they did, or similar) and spread the word, which helped.
  • Chris confirms they will do more analysis to Home in on the most likely causal genes within the genetic signal
 
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The interview @dave30th did with @Chris Ponting is brilliant. I extracted the audio which may make it easier for some to listen to and am sharing it with his kind permission here
@dave30th I find it much easier listening to podcasts than watching videos. Now that you’re doing more videos (which is great) have you considered doing them as podcasts too – ie, using the he same audio as the videos and uploading them to podcast platforms? I know you’re not much of a techie but I guess there may be people here who would be willing to help if needed.

I think podcasts could help you/us to reach a wider audience too.
 
I did laugh at the description of the patient community, and couldn’t help but think it may have been influenced by Chris perhaps looking at these forums…
Do you know the approximate timestamp for when they talked about this? Thank you for uploading the audio - youtube requires the screen to be on at all times.
 
Do you know the approximate timestamp for when they talked about this? Thank you for uploading the audio - youtube requires the screen to be on at all times.
That’s a potential question for AI.
Here’s my prompt: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/https-youtu-be-cgumcb-yiaa-wha-XYJN8tpZREOd50lBlvDyrQ#0

And the answer:
In the interview, the ME/CFS community is discussed at the following timestamps:

  • 0:468–0:477: Professor Chris Ponting emphasizes the essential role of people with ME/CFS and ME charities in building trust and facilitating the recruitment of over 25,000 participants for the DecodeME study. This section acknowledges the community's contribution to the success of the research.
  • 0:864–0:889: Ponting describes being "overwhelmed by the reception from people with ME," highlighting the patient community's positive and supportive response to the announcement of the results.
  • 0:889–0:934: The discussion continues on the depth of understanding within the ME/CFS community regarding scientific progress, the pros and cons of the research, and effective intra-community communication. Ponting states that the engagement and communication within the community were "lovely to see."
These timestamps represent the key moments when the ME/CFS community's involvement, reaction, and scientific engagement are directly discussed.
 
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