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Contribution to science of Regius Professor Sir Simon Wessely: a thirty year retrospective

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS news' started by Daisymay, Dec 29, 2017.

  1. Wonko

    Wonko Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I think it's clear from the context that he does endorse it, but as to proving that, either legally or in the court of public opinion, that's a different matter. There is a tad too much wiggle room for a person such as him to exploit if he desired.
     
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  2. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I think SW is a supremo at dropping ideas into the melting pot he wants people to pick up on, whilst maintaining the plausible deniability that he only said what someone else said. He's very good at it, because it is very hard to pin down or prove. But I strongly suspect it is what he does. Nevertheless, we must not quote people out of context, or endorse texts which do, else our credibility for seeking the truth and good science will go down the pan - the very things underpinning why we founded this forum, and why I am proud to be part of it.
     
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  3. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I think that Wessely is often evasive enough in his use of language that it's very hard to use short quotations to show the problems with his work. Unfortunately, it normally requires people to do much more reading than that, but attempting to take quick-cuts can back-fire and make it seem as if criticism of him is unfair. Than there's the problem of getting anyone to read the longer criticism!

    Thanks for posting the additional context.
     
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  4. Sean

    Sean Moderator Staff Member

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    Agree.

    Unfortunately fully catching Wessely out requires both solid familiarity with the background of it all, and a massive collation and cross-referencing job.
     
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    He was a lot less cautious when he didn't think patients would hear what he was saying. Older papers before Sci-Hub or even when the internet was less common, as well as his correspondence with Aylward, had some pretty damning snippets.
     
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    ukxmrv Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Hence the very old saying about him 'weasel words'
     

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