Chapter 1 - Fads and Fallacies in Science, Medicine, and Psychology Published online by Cambridge University Press: 16 March 2023

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    https://www.cambridge.org/core/book...d-psychology/E0F368DDCFB42B36530D3E19A423DEA7
     
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    Author is Joel Paris, Emeritus Professor of Psychiatry, McGill University, Canada.
     
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    If you're going to use references and definitions from Shorter and Wessely from the 1990's you can hardly justify accusing others of lacking knowledge.
    Where are the references from post 2015, and where is the current consensus that ME/CFS must include PEM?
     
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    Those probably don't count as institutions like IOM, NICE or WHO are now clearly just puppets of the extremely powerful ME/CFS patient organizations, also commonly known as "some patients".
     
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    There's something unique about reading medical philosophy, it's like a peer into the past, pre-science, even pre-expertise. They're just old ideas without any substance throwing rocks from a glass tower while screaming "I'M THE KING OF THE WORLD!". Freud himself would find nothing incomprehensible in any of this. The ideas are so generic, so ignorant and devoid of any actual meaning, of any effort at being valid.

    Every bit of criticism they have for what they consider fads, and obviously "fads" don't last for decades this is just silly, applies far more to the main factor at fault here in the psychosomatic ideology. But they can't ever turn criticism inward. Their job is to throw rocks and their glass throne is just super comfortable.

    How do you even get past calling chronic pain, literally one of biggest health problems, a fad? One common factor to psychosomatic ideologues and anyone who espouses those beliefs is a complete inability to imagine any experience other than their own. They are so full of themselves while blowing nothing but hot air. Even where equal criticism applies, they tip it entirely as being blameless, even perfect.

    And they just basically trade praise and awards for one another in a ridiculously incestuous system:
    In itself this is laughable, but the author just made zero effort outside of supporting their conclusion that they seem unaware that Cochrane actually does that without any problem, since they straight up don't care about their own principles when it's necessary to push the ideology. Evidence-based medicine is a corrupt industry and they are the most representative institution of this decay.

    And I'm really tired of nonsense like this:
    Physicians aren't elves, FFS. They're ordinary people who are often out of their depth, working in a dysfunctional system within a profession that carries the slogan "first do no harm", but has done far more harm than good until the turn of the last century. This is as detached from reality as any system of nobility or aristocracy, bestowing superiority on the basis of status alone, as having magical special blood, or whatever.

    The contrast with other expert professions is just shocking. Medicine has been moving so slowly over the last few decades that every other expert profession has passed them by. And they're essentially slowing down even further, betting everything on delusional nonsense that is somehow praised, while the actual serious hypotheses and models are ridiculed. It's just baffling how lazy, even nihilistic, this all is. They're becoming Nero, fiddling with themselves while the rest of us burns.

    It's actually weird that it talks about the crisis of replicability, when it is mostly contained in areas that use psychological methods. It's psychology that is this crisis, and medicine by extension everywhere they adopted the same methodologies, for the same purpose that psychology does: it allows them to "find" anything they want and simply argue their opinion as if factual. The real crisis of replicability is this stubborn inability to actually self-criticize. There's just none of that in medicine, they can never actually look at where they are failing, in fact seem to double down every single time their beliefs are challenged or the horrible outcomes they create are pointed out.
     
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    FM as "...medical fad" except that it was characterized since 1904 (as fibrositis).
     
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    Cart before horse much?
     
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