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BPS attempts at psychologizing Long Covid
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That is a very scary photo
It is to be hoped they are better at the day-job than they are at photoshopping. Or is it just our dysfunctional cognitions deceiving us?
Forbin
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Since Berenson seems to be regarded as a 'Covid contrarian," perhaps we should embrace the notion that the psychological explanation of long-Covid - and, by extension, the psychological explanation of ME - are henceforth to be regarded as the "contrarian" view. 
It's M.E. Linda
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Arnie Pye
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Some years ago I tried to find some light exercise videos on Youtube specifically for "elderly beginners" or "senior beginners". I wouldn't have described myself as elderly at the time but I was definitely a beginner. I came across a few videos described as being for beginners which were hour-long strenuous aerobics routines. There are plenty of people who simply don't have a clue...
rvallee
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Hundreds of coronavirus patients have joined a new 'bootcamp' aimed at treating their lingering symptoms
https://www.businessinsider.com/cor...g-haulers-treatment-lingering-symptoms-2020-8
https://www.businessinsider.com/cor...g-haulers-treatment-lingering-symptoms-2020-8
It's more of a paced GET hybrid, but still comes at it from the wrong angle, the actual substance is irrelevant when the starting point is imaginary.
And yet...
Ah, yes, confidence. Definitely a totally real issue here. More donkey science.
Kalliope
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Henrik Vogt and another doctor has written an opinion piece about scare mongering creating long covid.
It is important to emphasize that covid-19 can of course be a great strain and require time before one recovers. But at the same time, we must know that the same symptoms that are first triggered by an injury or microbe can eventually be maintained by the brain even if the original danger is gone. Just think of phantom pain where people experience pain in body parts that are gone.
The brain also triggers stress reactions that are bodily, such as palpitations, altered breathing patterns, skin reactions, altered intestinal function, changes in the hormonal system and the immune system. As the Norwegian doctor and researcher Vegard Wyller has pointed out, these highly physiological reactions can be persistent .
En fryktdrevet pandemi av varige helseproblemer
google translation: A fear-driven pandemic of lasting health problems
ETA: It is shared by a Lightning Process coach on twitter which again is liked by a research director at the Norwegian Institute of Public Health
It is important to emphasize that covid-19 can of course be a great strain and require time before one recovers. But at the same time, we must know that the same symptoms that are first triggered by an injury or microbe can eventually be maintained by the brain even if the original danger is gone. Just think of phantom pain where people experience pain in body parts that are gone.
The brain also triggers stress reactions that are bodily, such as palpitations, altered breathing patterns, skin reactions, altered intestinal function, changes in the hormonal system and the immune system. As the Norwegian doctor and researcher Vegard Wyller has pointed out, these highly physiological reactions can be persistent .
En fryktdrevet pandemi av varige helseproblemer
google translation: A fear-driven pandemic of lasting health problems
ETA: It is shared by a Lightning Process coach on twitter which again is liked by a research director at the Norwegian Institute of Public Health
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rvallee
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The deceit is part of the ideology. Hence why in the article someone who is clearly psychologizing the symptoms says that it's bad that people's symptoms were dismissed as psychological. It's the "dismissed" part that bothers them, not the "psychological".
If they said what they meant nobody the patients would not bother. They know this, hence the obsession in the literature over how to convince patients and frustration at the rejection of their magical thinking.
rvallee
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Well I feel dumber for having read that. It's like a descent into an aggressively ignorant diseased mind. Coincidentally, I just finished reading The Call of Cthulhu and it wasn't as compelling as its reputation lead me to believe. But Lovecraft wrote fiction, these fools seem to genuinely believe in their nonsense. The fear of fear may sound impressive to the superstitious but it falls very flat here, unlike in a century-old fantastic tale. Frankly Lovecraft's depiction of giant squid monsters from space are more believable than this childish nonsense.Henrik Vogt and another doctor has written an opinion piece about scare mongering creating long covid.
It is important to emphasize that covid-19 can of course be a great strain and require time before one recovers. But at the same time, we must know that the same symptoms that are first triggered by an injury or microbe can eventually be maintained by the brain even if the original danger is gone. Just think of phantom pain where people experience pain in body parts that are gone.
The brain also triggers stress reactions that are bodily, such as palpitations, altered breathing patterns, skin reactions, altered intestinal function, changes in the hormonal system and the immune system. As the Norwegian doctor and researcher Vegard Wyller has pointed out, these highly physiological reactions can be persistent .
En fryktdrevet pandemi av varige helseproblemer
google translation: A fear-driven pandemic of lasting health problems
ETA: It is shared by a Lightning Process coach on twitter which again is liked by a research director at the Norwegian Institute of Public Health
It shows the authors did not even bother reading anything about it, did not read a single patient report, their mind was made-up from the start. Nothing but speculative bullshit from people both too lazy to check up on anything but obsessed to the point of seeking out anything that will validate their nonsensical beliefs. The details don't even add up, no one but us was warning about this and nobody paid attention. It's so easy to invalidate.
Again I find no issue with that, it's that it's taken seriously at all that is concerning, that someone actually published this mindless drivel, and someone at a public institute of health would actually find this compelling. Fringe beliefs and quacks abound, but the institutions of science are supposed to guard against them, not give them a platform. That's what's truly frightening, that medical charlatans and con artists are actually promoted, their absurd beliefs amplified.
I have always claimed that these academic grifters cannot hold a candle to the goddesses Anjelica Huston and Annette Bening: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099703/
ladycatlover
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OMG there's a photo to scare the BeJesus out of everyone!!!
Jonathan Edwards
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Birthday surprise.