1. Sign our petition calling on Cochrane to withdraw their review of Exercise Therapy for CFS here.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Guest, the 'News in Brief' for the week beginning 15th April 2024 is here.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Welcome! To read the Core Purpose and Values of our forum, click here.
    Dismiss Notice

Blog: Hilda Bastian, "Should We Trust Meta-Analyses with Meta-Conflicts of Interest?"

Discussion in 'Research methodology news and research' started by Andy, Apr 28, 2019.

Tags:
  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member

    Messages:
    21,962
    Location:
    Hampshire, UK
    https://blogs.plos.org/absolutely-m...eta-analyses-with-meta-conflicts-of-interest/

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1122417879163572224
     
  2. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    8,385
    Even the most objective, rational and honest people should not be reviewing their own studies ... just ridiculous. A crucial aspect of any review is that it be impartial and independent. No matter who you are, biases will creep in even if unaware of them. It's why software engineers have their work reviewed and tested by others, in addition to their own testing.
     
    sea, lycaena, Keebird and 21 others like this.
  3. aza

    aza Established Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    66
    Location:
    Brazil
    I agree, sometimes it takes a ‘non-peer’ reviewer to spot obvious flaws in an article. Knowledge conpartimentalisation and publication rat race spring to mind.
     
    Sean, MEMarge, alktipping and 7 others like this.
  4. Wonko

    Wonko Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    6,685
    Location:
    UK
    I implicitly trust everyone who as an influence on my life.

    I trust them to make my life as difficult as possible, either for their own gain, amusement, or simply for political reasons.

    I have rarely had this trust abused.

    So it's safest just to rely on the trust equivalent of Murphy's law.
     
  5. chrisb

    chrisb Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    4,602
    Nemo iudex in causa sua.

    One can tell that this is not a concept of recent origin. It is surprising that it seems unknown to some.
     
  6. Skycloud

    Skycloud Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    2,187
    Location:
    UK
    Yes, and scrutiny of reviews by journal editors isn't enough of a check in some cases as we know.

    I wouldn't trust that fish's judgement
     
  7. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

    Messages:
    52,338
    Location:
    UK
    Had to do a google translate:
    ''no-one should be a judge in his own case''
     
  8. Wonko

    Wonko Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    6,685
    Location:
    UK
    So not "Luminous fish in the toilet"?

    The population of latin had no idea how to party, or how to amuse a 3 year old, or even how to amuse a 3 year old cat.
     
    MEMarge, andypants, Starlight and 3 others like this.
  9. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    8,385
    They will have their own COI in many cases. I suspect the possibility for a snazzy headline trumps many of the more rational but mundane reasons for not publishing.
     
  10. Sean

    Sean Moderator Staff Member

    Messages:
    7,213
    Location:
    Australia
    The idea that needs to die is that passing peer-review means a study is 'true'.

    Passing peer-review just admits the study to the highest level of the debate.
     
    MEMarge, lycaena, Keebird and 7 others like this.
  11. MSEsperanza

    MSEsperanza Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    2,861
    Location:
    betwixt and between
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2019
    inox, Sly Saint, rvallee and 6 others like this.
  12. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    8,385
    Er ... yes.
     
    rvallee, MEMarge, Trish and 1 other person like this.

Share This Page