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A history of liaison psychiatry in the UK 2017 Sharpe, Aitken, etc. Mentions Wessely taking lead on 1996 RC's CFS report, PACE an eg of 'successes'

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic news - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Esther12, Jan 29, 2018.

  1. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4967779/

    I'm sure I've discussed this paper previously, but seeing others complaining recently about how bad the 1996 CFS report was made this line stand it. Is it publicly acknowledged Wessely took a lead with that?

    That was before my time, but I've seen other patients talk about this report seeming to be a key part of things getting worse for patients in the UK.

    Sharpe cites Sharpe's PACE as one of their key 'successes' here:

     
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    Daisymay Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Some historical info on the RC's CFS reports:

    http://www.margaretwilliams.me/2005...-research_marshall-and-williams_25jun2005.pdf

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    It will be recalled by the ME community that after publication of the Joint Royal Colleges’ Report on CFS in 1996 of which Professor Simon Wessely was the prime mover (CR54, published by the RCP) -- a report that was internationally condemned for its extreme psychiatric bias -- the Editor of the Lancet, Richard Horton, courageously spoke out against it, saying on the record: “The college representatives interpreted every piece of evidence pointing to a biological cause in a negative light. Medical paternalism seems alive and well in Britain today” (Why doctors are failing ME sufferers. Dr Richard Horton. Observer Life, 23 March 1997).


    http://www.margaretwilliams.me/1996/observations-on-joint-royal-colleges-report-cr54.pdf

    OBSERVATIONS ON THE JOINT REPORT OF THE UK ROYAL COLLEGES OF PHYSICIANS, PSYCHIATRISTS AND GENERAL PRACTITIONERS ON CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, OCTOBER 1996 / CR 54 / RCP Eileen Marshall Margaret Williams 17th November 1996

    http://www.margaretwilliams.me/1997/comparison-of-us-report-with-uk-royal-colleges-report-on-cfs.pdf

    Comparison of the American Report for Physicians on CFS with the UK Joint Royal Colleges’ Report on CFS Marshall E. Williams M. 20th February 1997 Revised 22nd August 2014
     
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    I cant bring myself to click the 'like' button to either of the first 2 posts on this thread, but I am glad there is a thread on this.


    I didn't know Richard Horton did that.
     
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    He must have got a visit from the Illuminati the next day with an offer he coundn't refuse.
     
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    The future does not look any better. I can't find a better place for this, but I think this takes the cake as most delusional thing I have seen so far and it's a tough competition!

    Dementia? You see, it's just thinking stupid. If you didn't think stupid you wouldn't be so stupid. This is literally just a bunch of labels stacked on top of the traditional loopy cycle of conversion disorder with no particular sense or order.

    Tags Jon Stone, because of course.

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1277341048336011264


    This is what descent into madness looks like. It actually gets worse with time even though it's the same thing going back over a century.
     

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