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    Psychological therapies. Discussion thread.

    A man with your surname could not think otherwise.
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    Psychological therapies. Discussion thread.

    Because the BPS approach to ME, fibro etc. is that the conditions are not of physical aetiology so when we say mind can't cure cancer, they will answer that MUPS and cancer are different since they are committed to the idea that mind can create e.g. ME or fibro consistent symptoms but not e.g...
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    Psychological therapies. Discussion thread.

    Sorry I can't do the quotes so I will answer in ablock,. Apologies. Our thoughts and emotions etc feed back onto some of our bodily functions. What I refer to as "mind" does not simply arise from bodily function but influences it in turn. This does not imply separation but contradicts identity...
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    Psychological therapies. Discussion thread.

    Sorry Jonathan, I wrote a considered response (imo) but I wiped it by poor keyboard technique. Reprising as best I can: I would prefer "input" to "component". Dopamine or other imbalance may be the main input i.e. treatable proximate cause in a case of psychosis, but thinking you're Ivan the...
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    Psychological therapies. Discussion thread.

    Your point is forcefully expressed and I would think many on here sympathise with that force of feeling. I take a different view 1) Your own description of the mind as an abstract construct referring to some of the products of bodily function makes a definition of the mind as the same as the...
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    Paul Garner on Long Covid and ME/CFS - BMJ articles and other media.

    Once you start with a definition of ME which excludes actual biophysical aetiology (ongoing) , everything we say about this or that not addressing physical illness is irrelevant. They are in camp Sharpe - illness without disease. Physical illness as symptoms but not of physical cause. We can't...
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    Paul Garner on Long Covid and ME/CFS - BMJ articles and other media.

    What is need is the acceptance, as with e.g. depression , that different approaches suit different people. Talking for one, psych pills for another, both for many, aspirin. But because such an acceptance is seen as part and parcel of unhelpful thinking by the fundies of various processes, they...
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    Paul Garner on Long Covid and ME/CFS - BMJ articles and other media.

    This is the whole thing. He cannot any longer be objective about his condition because objectivity would threaten his own recovery. It's part of the deal that he doesn't listen to those who have not recovered and the identification of post covid/ME/CFS with "that which the process addresses"...
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    Medical scientists and philosophers worldwide appeal to EBM to expand the notion of ‘evidence’, BMJ Evidence Based Medicine 2020

    All I can say is I believe I am better for taking low risk chances and I know others too. In at least one case the weight of reasonable evidence has moved in the direction of the helpful Dr being on the right track. My term "gamblers" is not the best. I am not convinced BPS conduct honest trials...
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    Medical scientists and philosophers worldwide appeal to EBM to expand the notion of ‘evidence’, BMJ Evidence Based Medicine 2020

    As a patient I have been happy for certain biophysical doctors to take action on the basis of evidence which other doctors would have dismissed as "no evidence". The quality of clinical care imo may be better where a doctor is willing to take a punt on a treatment where evidence of cause is...
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    Medical scientists and philosophers worldwide appeal to EBM to expand the notion of ‘evidence’, BMJ Evidence Based Medicine 2020

    We need some latitude on evidence because it happens many times that a condition is real and biophysical but is dismissed or psychologised for lack of biophysical evidence, at a current time, differences in approaches in different countries, or poor medical practice. As imo point 6 is fair. I...
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    Lightning Process study in Norway - Given Ethics Approval February 2022

    Yes, and it is pretty evident in both LP and RT writings that HPA axis and specifically sympathetic overdrive (SO) is what they are on about. But they presume SO is present and equate SO and symptoms precipitated by it with ME. They assert quite different origins for SO - subconscious reaction...
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    Lightning Process study in Norway - Given Ethics Approval February 2022

    You'd get the brush off from many of their advocates and enthusiasts.: 1) Definitions By the admittance of some of their practitioners, they cannot treat somatic illness e.g. a virus. They define, or at least assertively describe "ME" in a certain way, and a virus or other somatic illness is...
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    Symptoms of Covid-19

    Merged thread Covid linked to risk of mental illness and brain disorder, study suggests | Coronavirus | The Guardian I haven't seen the paper but immediately ask who diagnosed the mental health difficulties and whether any diagnoses were achieved by labelling presence of "functional" physical...
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    Psychiatric and neuropsychiatric presentations associated with severe coronavirus infections, 2020, Rogers et al

    I am concerned about the potential of the PTSD angle. Not in as far as it might examine purely psychiatric symptoms but because of the risk that physical symptoms arising from unexplained pathways may be put down arbritrarily to PTSD as a psychiatric phenomenon. The next move might well be "Our...
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    New Scientist: Chronic Lyme disease may be a misdiagnosis of chronic fatigue syndrome

    1) Lyme is known as a cause of actual encephalomyelitis and myalgia. 2) In the old days CFS sufferers were said to want CFS/ME, or ME diagnosis in order to avoid diagnosis and stigma of mental illness. We were afraid of "stigma". What we were really afraid of was inappropriate treatment. CFS/ME...
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    New Scientist: Chronic Lyme disease may be a misdiagnosis of chronic fatigue syndrome

    If Me is as you describe, that does no an any imply that there are not sufferers from long term infections who may overlap considerably with ME. Lyme may be such an infection in which case post Lyme might on your definition be called (an) ME and ongoing Lyme - Lyme. The issue of who has what...
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    ME/CFS success story: Lightning Process on Youtube 2019

    Psychocentral cases. Plus those on the way to remission in need of a push and those in the overlap. Theoretically maybe some with a virus who are so distraught that their immune system will not deal with the virus so they an never remit. Gupta would probably point up all manner of Pavlovian...
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    Researcher Interactions Question collection thread for S4ME Q&A with Dr Karl Morten, University of Oxford, Sept 2019

    Seconded. Plus should we be seeking diagnostic or informative testing (lupus is (often) diagnosed by test panels). IS atest invalid just because it is not diagnostic? Can we see Mc's claims as to integrity of his procedues taken seriously (incl possibility of refutation, of course). Is it good...
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    Assessing cellular energy dysfunction in CFS/ME using a commercially available laboratory test, 2019, Morten, Newton et al

    My hope is that all is not lost in this matter. It may be that some practitioners rather than My/Mc presented/used this test as diagnostic. Did you improve clinically after removal of nightshades? I certainly recall mitochondrial dysfunction as attested in this test as being linked to...
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