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@Sly Saint just wondering if you think you'll be able to do a transcript for this? :)

How big was this cohort?

I think both?

Yes they did and yes they are.

If anyone is able to summarise or transcribe I would be super grateful

If a research study describes something as having a 0.6 fold change. Does that mean it is higher or lower?

See here https://www.s4me.info/threads/3rd-annual-community-symposium-on-the-molecular-basis-of-me-cfs-at-stanford-university-sponsored-by-omf-7th-sept-2019.9297/page-3

I felt like my infectious agent was just a common cold.

Why were you denied membership???

Thanks Trish. So it appears that Hilary Johnson was misrepresenting Hanson's words on Twitter. Does Hanson think it's one infectious agent, though? Doesn't it seem more likely that ME is something that can develop after a variety of different infections?

What do you mean by immune modulators?

Links to the thesis and other papers are in a post further down the thread Merged thread Andrew Pellegrini replicates Byron Hyde's findings (apparently) "Apparently", because I haven't got the energy to read the article properly rather than just skimming.

Jarred Younger still looking at it, he was meant to be presenting at the Symposium but couldn't make it for some reason.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/sep/08/london-gps-told-to-restrict-specialist-referrals-under-new-nhs-rationing-plan?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR1NgQEFLMvULqrAdJcV3xfvzjDB5yvio1ak834LgpxOJM9Zgn0V1d1_ByI

Thanks. So people on Twitter were overstating the point?

But @Sing just said that Hanson didn't say that at the Symposium. Or am I misunderstanding something? I'm so confused.

I'm so confused now. I have seen it reported that she said "we know we're dealing with a genius virus". Where is that quotation coming from?

How can you possibly guarantee that?

Well that's just depressing.

Why does Hanson now think that it's a virus? I thought the researchers had moved away from that idea. Anyone who was there or has watched the talk (I can't) - @Michiel Tack @Wilhelmina Jenkins @Ben H - did she say why she thinks it's a virus? I'm confused because I thought that OMF were...