Methylene Blue

whitebeach · Aug 28, 2024

Anyone taking mytheline blue? Dr Myhill is suggesting it.

Hutan · Aug 28, 2024

There is some discussion of it in this post and some that follow in that thread:
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Hutan · Aug 28, 2024

From that thread:

NelliePledge said: ↑

What is Methylene Blue? It sounds suspiciously like loo cleaner.
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Arnie Pye said: ↑

I'm puzzled about this as well. I had never heard of it until about two or three months ago, and yet I have seen it mentioned quite a lot of times since then on all sorts of websites, as well as by various doctors, some possible crackpots and quacks, and Google Scholar has about 3.7 million search results for it.

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&q=methylene+blue&btnG=

It has apparently been around for over a century (according to wikipedia), but why haven't I heard of it before and what has made it very popular all of a sudden?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylene_blue
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Methylene blue can interact with serotonergic medications (drugs that enhance the action of serotonin, a brain chemical) and cause life-threatening central nervous system toxicity.

Additionally, methylene blue can interact with numerous other drugs by increasing their levels in the body, thus raising the risk for side effects. Examples of such drugs are digoxin, warfarin, phenytoin, dihydroergotamine, ergotamine, fentanyl, sirolimus (aka rapamycin), and tacrolimus.

Taking Methylene blue can be toxic if taken during pregnancy. It has been known to cause intestinal atresia, fetal abnormalities, hyperbilirubinemia, and fetal death. It’s recommended that you use birth control if you’re taking Methylene blue.
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boolybooly said: ↑

Methylene blue is widely used as an antiparasitic in the aquarium trade. Apparently it blocks nitric oxide synthase in humans, which might raise blood pressure and account for some reported effects. I wouldn't do that to myself, personally.
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Wits_End · Sep 9, 2024

I was thinking it was something you put in antifreeze ...

Jenny TipsforME · Mar 24, 2025

I’ve just seen it suggested to improve mitochondrial function in neurological conditions on a video. I outsourced the rabbit hole to Perplexity deep research but I’m still a little unsure whether it is a viable idea requiring better evidence or a quack idea, probably leaning towards insufficient research (https://www.perplexity.ai/search/investigate-the-credibility-th-QUUi4MLxRY.Bo9oLFwV8_g ):

Jenny TipsforME · Mar 24, 2025

Methylene Blue for Mitochondrial Dysfunction in Neurological Conditions: A Critical Evaluation

Methylene blue (MB) has garnered significant attention as a potential therapeutic agent for mitochondrial dysfunction in neurological and neuroimmune conditions. This report critically examines the scientific evidence supporting MB’s mitochondrial effects and evaluates its clinical utility across various neurological disorders. While laboratory studies demonstrate promising mechanisms of action related to electron transport and mitochondrial function, clinical evidence remains limited and varies in quality. The disconnect between theoretical benefits and clinical adoption appears to stem from insufficient high-quality human trials, potential safety concerns with certain medication combinations, and gaps in comparative effectiveness research.
Mechanisms of Action on Mitochondrial Function

Alternative Electron Transport

Methylene blue possesses unique redox properties that enable it to function as an alternative electron carrier in the mitochondrial respiratory chain. This distinctive mechanism allows MB to accept electrons from various reducing equivalents in mitochondria and transfer them to other components of the respiratory chain or directly to molecular oxygen. This capability positions MB as a potential bypass agent for dysfunctional components of the electron transport chain.
The “alternative electron transport” hypothesis suggests that MB can donate electrons to cytochrome c, effectively bypassing complexes I and III of the electron transport chain. This mechanism could theoretically ameliorate energy production deficits in mitochondrial disorders where these complexes are compromised. Studies in rodent models have demonstrated that MB can improve bioenergetic parameters, including respiration and membrane potential, in mitochondria treated with complex III inhibitors.

However, this hypothesis has been challenged by some research. A study specifically investigating whether MB bypasses Complex III antimycin block in mouse brain mitochondria concluded negatively, suggesting limitations to MB’s electron transport capabilities. This contradictory evidence highlights the complexity of MB’s actions and the need for further mechanistic clarification.

Neuroprotective Effects
Beyond its direct effects on electron transport, MB demonstrates broader neuroprotective properties that may benefit neurological conditions. MB targets mitochondria and has shown potential beneficial effects in animal models of brain disease through multiple mechanisms. These include enhancement of brain mitochondrial respiration, reduction of oxidative stress, and attenuation of neuroinflammation—all critical factors in many neurological and neuroimmune conditions.

In Alzheimer’s disease models, MB-loaded nanocomposites have demonstrated the ability to mitigate mitochondrial oxidative stress, suppress tau hyperphosphorylation, and prevent neuronal death both in vitro and in vivo. These findings suggest that MB’s mitochondrial effects extend beyond simple bioenergetic enhancement to include broader cytoprotective actions that could benefit various neurological conditions with mitochondrial components.

Clinical Evidence in Neurological Conditions

Alzheimer’s Disease
The strongest clinical evidence for MB in neurological applications appears to be in Alzheimer’s disease. MB is undergoing clinical trials for Alzheimer’s, targeting tau aggregation—a key pathological feature of the disease. A nanocomposite system delivering MB demonstrated significant rescue of memory deficits in AD rat models by mitigating multiple aspects of tau-associated pathogenesis. This multi-target approach addresses both the tau and mitochondrial aspects of Alzheimer’s pathology.

Despite these promising preclinical results, the search results do not provide definitive large-scale clinical trial outcomes specifically for Alzheimer’s disease. This represents a significant gap between mechanistic promise and confirmed clinical utility.

Other Neurological Applications

Evidence for MB’s application in other neurological conditions mentioned in the query (epilepsy, myalgic encephalomyelitis, mitochondrial myopathy, and mitochondrial-triggered atypical periodic paralysis) is notably sparse in the provided search results. A scoping review identified therapeutic applications of MB for several neuropsychiatric conditions, including bipolar disorder, refractory neuropathic pain, and post-traumatic stress disorder. However, these applications are not directly linked to MB’s mitochondrial effects in the reviewed literature.

The absence of specific clinical trials addressing mitochondrial myopathies or other primary mitochondrial disorders represents a significant limitation in assessing MB’s clinical utility for these conditions. Despite the mechanistic rationale, translation to clinical practice requires more substantial evidence.

Research Quality Assessment

Clinical Trial Design and Rigor
The available clinical trials involving MB vary considerably in quality and relevance to neurological applications. Several randomized controlled trials (RCTs) of MB appear in the search results, but they primarily address non-neurological conditions:
1. A double-blind RCT evaluating MB as an analgesic adjuvant for post-anal fistula surgery
2. A split-mouth, randomized controlled trial for MB in periodontal therapy
3. A phase 2, randomized, placebo-controlled, single-blind clinical trial of MB for COVID-19 patients

The COVID-19 trial is particularly instructive regarding general aspects of MB research quality. While it established safety and tolerability, it failed to demonstrate efficacy superiority over placebo. Additionally, the sample size was extremely small—only 21 patients for safety assessment and 19 for efficacy evaluation. This highlights a common limitation in MB research: inadequate statistical power due to small sample sizes.

Notably absent from the search results are high-quality RCTs specifically evaluating MB for mitochondrial dysfunction in neurological conditions. Studies focusing on neurological applications appear to be primarily preclinical or conceptual in nature. This represents a significant gap in the evidence base.

Methodological Limitations
Several methodological challenges emerge from the search results that limit definitive conclusions about MB’s clinical utility:
1. Species differences: Much of the supporting research comes from rodent models, and interspecies differences in mitochondrial physiology and pharmacology could limit translation to humans.
2. Delivery mechanisms: Some promising results involve specialized delivery systems, such as the tau-targeted nanocomposite, which may not reflect the effects of conventional MB administration.
3. Contradictory findings: The literature contains contradictory conclusions about fundamental mechanisms, such as whether MB can bypass Complex III inhibition, suggesting that our understanding of MB’s actions remains incomplete.
4. Safety considerations: MB has been associated with serotonin syndrome when used in certain contexts, indicating potential safety concerns that require careful monitoring and possible contraindications.

Comparative Effectiveness
The search results provide limited information on how MB compares to established treatments for the specified neurological conditions. One study notes that MB and photobiomodulation (PBM) have similar beneficial effects on mitochondrial function, oxidative damage, inflammation, and behavioral symptoms, but through different mechanisms. This suggests potential complementary approaches rather than direct alternatives.

No direct comparisons between MB and standard treatments for mitochondrial disorders (such as coenzyme Q10, L-carnitine, or riboflavin) appear in the search results. This absence of comparative effectiveness research represents another significant gap in evaluating MB’s place in therapy for neurological conditions with mitochondrial components.

Barriers to Clinical Adoption

Evidence Gaps
The limited adoption of MB by conventional physicians for neurological conditions likely stems from several factors that emerge from analyzing the search results:
1. Insufficient high-quality clinical evidence: Despite promising mechanistic studies, there appears to be a paucity of large, well-designed clinical trials specifically addressing neurological applications of MB.
2. Unclear dosing and administration protocols: Optimal dosing regimens for neurological applications remain undefined, with studies using various protocols that may not be directly comparable or translatable to clinical practice.
3. Incomplete understanding of mechanism: Contradictory findings regarding MB’s effects on electron transport create uncertainty about its fundamental mechanisms of action in different contexts.

Safety Concerns
Safety considerations may also limit clinical adoption. MB has been associated with serotonin syndrome, a potentially life-threatening condition, particularly when administered to patients on serotonergic medications. This interaction necessitates careful patient selection and monitoring, potentially limiting MB’s broad applicability in populations with neurological conditions who often take multiple medications.

Conclusion

Methylene blue demonstrates promising mechanisms of action related to mitochondrial function that could theoretically benefit various neurological and neuroimmune conditions with mitochondrial components. The strongest evidence supports its potential in Alzheimer’s disease through combined effects on tau pathology and mitochondrial function. However, significant gaps remain between mechanistic promise and clinical evidence.

The limited adoption of MB by conventional medicine appears justified by several factors: insufficient high-quality clinical trials in relevant neurological populations, small sample sizes in existing studies, safety concerns (particularly regarding serotonergic interactions), and a lack of comparative effectiveness data against established treatments. While the research on MB continues to evolve, particularly for Alzheimer’s disease, current evidence does not yet support its widespread clinical adoption for mitochondrial dysfunction in most neurological conditions.

Future research should prioritize larger, well-designed clinical trials specifically targeting mitochondrial myopathies and other primary mitochondrial disorders, with clear outcome measures related to mitochondrial function and clinical improvement. Additionally, comparative effectiveness studies against established treatments would help clarify MB’s place in therapy for these challenging conditions.
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Jenny TipsforME · Mar 24, 2025

My original query was: Investigate the credibility that Methylene blue helps mitochondria function to the extent that it is clinically useful for neurological and neuroimmune conditions such as epilepsy, myalgic encephalomyelitis, mitochondrial myopathy, mitochondrial triggered atypical periodic paralysis (eg MTATP6 mutation caused). Critically evaluate the research are there any vested interests? What about sample size? Was it RCT double blinded or survey based? Are there meta analysis papers? How does it compare to other treatments and supplements in effectiveness? Why don’t conventional doctors prescribe this? What is more effective (though concentrate on research on Methylene blue)?

Perplexity Sources (83 checked in total)
[1] Methylene Blue Metabolic Therapy Restrains In Vivo Ovarian Tumor Growth https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10814748/
[2] An introduction to photocatalysis through methylene blue photodegradation https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/53c9bd3926a2f430ed7916f7baccc133f41d2425
[3] Protection against neurodegeneration with low-dose methylene blue and near-infrared light https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4428125/
[4] METHYLENE BLUE AND BILIRUBIN PREPARATION OF A COMPOUND OF BILE PIGMENT IN URINE : THE METHYLENE BLUE TEST FOR A STUDY OF THE MECHANISM OF 1947 https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/36aa7cb33b84dde5e709a3dc0a970f438fa9b5a9
[5] A study of the mechanism of the methylene blue test for bile pigment in urine; preparation of a compound of methylene blue and bilirubin. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20285036/
[6] Apoptosis induced by methylene‐blue‐mediated photodynamic therapy in melanomas and the involvement of mitochondrial dysfunction revealed by proteomics https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19016762/
[7] Functionalization of biochar using SDS/SAP nanomicelles enhanced its immobilization capacity for dyes and heavy metals in water https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC11871042/
[8] Romanowsky staining: history, recent advances and future prospects from a chemistry perspective https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37929609/

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