Streaming nose first thing in the morning - allergies? Bug? Some weird ME/CFS thing?

Sasha

Sasha

Senior Member (Voting Rights)
For quite a few weeks now, I've started up with a streaming nose as soon as I get up. I've also been sneezing more than usual. I do anyway have a chronically stuff nose and sneeze a bit but over the same period, I've felt a fluey aching. I'm still shielding and it would be extraordinary if I've managed to catch something but maybe I have.

But I'd like to know what this nose business is in case I can do anything about it. My nose isn't running overnight (or I wouldn't be able to breathe) and doesn't (I think) start running when I wake up - rather, I think it starts running when I sit up and start moving around. Then it streams a lot for a few minutes and then it dies down quite a bit.

This seems a weird pattern. Any ideas what it indicates?

FWIW, I can't do housework and my flat is very dusty.
 
No idea I’m afraid @Sasha but I have periods where my nose just starts running. Sometimes when I get up first thing, sometimes after eating, or just around the same time in the afternoon. No idea what causes these strange patches. Similarly with eyes watering (although other times they’re dry).

I would say I’ve given up trying to work out the myriad odd things that happen and how our bodies respond to the world and changes within us. But I haven’t as I too want to understand and do something to help them when they happen. So hope you get to the bottom of it or it stops soon.
 
Sasha said:
I do anyway have a chronically stuff nose and sneeze a bit but over the same period, I've felt a fluey aching.
Click to expand...

I've got something like this too. Seems as if it's gone on too long to be a virus (it started at the end of November) but I don't really know. The aching comes and goes, and while it's similar to what I'd get with some winter viruses, it's not as bad. I feel off-colour more than ill.

I've found fexafenadine helps a bit, but it might only be clearing the stuffiness I'd have anyway from allergies. Other than that, no idea.
 
Sasha said:
For quite a few weeks now, I've started up with a streaming nose as soon as I get up. I've also been sneezing more than usual. I do anyway have a chronically stuff nose and sneeze a bit but over the same period, I've felt a fluey aching. I'm still shielding and it would be extraordinary if I've managed to catch something but maybe I have.

But I'd like to know what this nose business is in case I can do anything about it. My nose isn't running overnight (or I wouldn't be able to breathe) and doesn't (I think) start running when I wake up - rather, I think it starts running when I sit up and start moving around. Then it streams a lot for a few minutes and then it dies down quite a bit.

This seems a weird pattern. Any ideas what it indicates?

FWIW, I can't do housework and my flat is very dusty.
Click to expand...
Just to rule it in or out but are you putting any form of heating on at any point ?
 
For some years I have experienced a runny nose on waking in the morning or shortly after getting up. Usually it clears after blowing my nose a couple of times. Very occasionally I also get it after sleeping in the middle of the day. I don’t usually get it when waking in the middle of the night. It had not occurred to me to link this to ME/CFS.

More recently I also sometimes get a runny nose when eating. This is more reminiscent of older people with a drip at the end of their nose during meals (gustatory rhinitis, which becomes more common as people age), so I had just assumed this was to do with getting older.
 
I have always had this with ME/CFS, a blocked nose that is worse in the morning and requires constant attention to keep it possible to breath through the nose. The easiest solution I have found is XLear, a squirt of that on a morning seems to have me mostly good until the next day.
 
I’ve always had a runny nose, always needed tissues at hand, always worse first thing, in cold weather, when walking around, at meals. A certain amount of that is entirely normal, I think. But it’s a lot worse if the place isn’t hoovered and dusted.

Hopefully your GP or the pharmacist can help. For what it’s worth, what you describe, including the fluey aching, sounds like my allergies. I neglected them once and got a whopper of a sinus infection as a result (according to the GP).

Could you get someone to clean your apartment? Just dusting with a slightly damp cloth and then hoovering. This will make it all worse for a few hours/a day, so it would be good if you could be out of it while it’s done, or wear a mask while it’s done and for the rest of the day. But then it might improve things.

If the GP/pharmacist do think it’s allergies, then they might be able to recommend a nasal spray to calm it all down.

Feel better.
 
Don't know about @Sasha, but mine clearly isn't heating or allergies. Can't work out what it is—some days I've felt quite unwell, though mostly it's more grumbling discomfort than overt illness.

I don't know what it is, but it seems most likely to be a mild respiratory infection that tends to linger.
 
I also get recurrent nasal vestibulitis that comes with a streaming nose and can make me feel really unwell. It lasts for ages. Got a bad bout last year that went on for 6 weeks. Have it now but it's mild and it's easing off. I did not have this before ME/CFS, but I don't know if it has anything to do with ME/CFS.

Took ages to get on the right treatment because my main symptom was insane itch in and on nose and lip, alongside the inside of my nose peeling off, and GPs did not recognise it for what it was. (And no, I don't pick my nose or pluck my nose or any of the other things online descriptions of it suggest!)

GPs would be in a good position to know if what you have is something that lots of other people are reporting too, or more likely to be something else.
 
Evergreen said:
GPs would be in a good position to know if what you have is something that lots of other people are reporting too, or more likely to be something else.
Click to expand...

You couldn't go to a GP with a runny nose and feeling a bit off, though, specially when it's a push to locate somebody who hasn't got a virus.

I only go if I start growing new lumps or something, and even then it's often a waste of time. I've spent a year trying to find out what my latest thing is, but the GP tells me to ask rheumatology, and rheumatology tells me to see my GP. I've got clear photos of it, and they still ask whether I'm sure it's not psoriasis (which is like a vet looking at a picture of my cat and asking whether I'm sure it's not a greyhound).
 
Sasha said:
For quite a few weeks now, I've started up with a streaming nose as soon as I get up. I've also been sneezing more than usual. I do anyway have a chronically stuff nose and sneeze a bit but over the same period, I've felt a fluey aching. I'm still shielding and it would be extraordinary if I've managed to catch something but maybe I have.

But I'd like to know what this nose business is in case I can do anything about it. My nose isn't running overnight (or I wouldn't be able to breathe) and doesn't (I think) start running when I wake up - rather, I think it starts running when I sit up and start moving around. Then it streams a lot for a few minutes and then it dies down quite a bit.

This seems a weird pattern. Any ideas what it indicates?

FWIW, I can't do housework and my flat is very dusty.
Click to expand...
SAME! it is like semi permanent hayfever, and I get very irritated eyes too.

I have had chronic rhinitis for over a decade, but this is new and ANNOYING!

I use a saline spray every morning, which helps and sometimes cold water face plunges, which definitely help. I am fortunately enough to have a cleaner come in once a fortnight so the surface dust gets kept down, but have a fair number of books that have not been deep clean in over a decade, despite repeated promises from various cleaners.
 
Kitty said:
You couldn't go to a GP with a runny nose and feeling a bit off, though, specially when it's a push to locate somebody who hasn't got a virus.

I only go if I start growing new lumps or something, and even then it's often a waste of time. I've spent a year trying to find out what my latest thing is, but the GP tells me to ask rheumatology, and rheumatology tells me to see my GP. I've got clear photos of it, and they still ask whether I'm sure it's not psoriasis (which is like a vet looking at a picture of my cat and asking whether I'm sure it's not a greyhound).
Click to expand...
I stack my ailments. I wait till I've got 3 or 4 and then I email. And I do all the things the pharmacist/NHS-type sites would recommend first. Then I have a chance of getting help with 1 or 2!

Does a dermatologist need to get involved in that circle of fun you've got going on?!
 
Evergreen said:
Does a dermatologist need to get involved in that circle of fun you've got going on?!
Click to expand...

No, it's erythema nodosum (which isn't a big deal) with other symptoms (which are worse than bad PEM).

EN is a condition in its own right and might be all that's going on. But this appears to be weather related; it flares every March, and for the last two years it's been happening again every time we hit a run of sunny weather. Could be coincidence, but the March date has been weirdly consistent for five years now.

Anyway I see the consultant in a few weeks, so I'll find out if she also shrugs her shoulders. It'd be just my luck to develop something else science can't explain... :rolleyes:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom