Internal medicine at the crossroads of long COVID diagnosis and management, 2025, Ranque and Cogan

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic research - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by SNT Gatchaman, May 19, 2025 at 10:41 PM.

  1. SNT Gatchaman

    SNT Gatchaman Senior Member (Voting Rights) Staff Member

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    Internal medicine at the crossroads of long COVID diagnosis and management
    Ranque, Brigitte; Cogan, Elie

    The lack of specificity in its definition is a major obstacle to both explanatory and therapeutic research in long COVID. It brings together, on the one hand, patients with severe COVID-19 who suffer the classic complications of prolonged hospitalization and decompensation of comorbidities and, on the other hand, patients with non-severe acute COVID-19 who report multiple symptoms that cannot be fully explained by a biomechanical model. Indeed, despite numerous studies, it remains unclear how persistent viral infection, immunological or coagulation disturbances may contribute mechanistically to long COVID.

    Nevertheless, internal medicine should be in good place to manage these patients. Indeed, the diversity of symptoms may evoke a broad spectrum of differential diagnoses that are familiar to internists. Their experience in the exploration of unexplained symptoms is also valuable. It can reduce the need for multiple consultations with specialists and unnecessary laboratory or imaging tests. However, long COVID diagnosis cannot be limited to the exclusion of all other conditions one by one.

    An open and non-dualistic approach is required to identify other mechanisms that may explain the symptoms. Based on their clinical experience, most French internists who responded to an opinion survey consider that long COVID corresponds most closely to a functional somatic disorder (FSD) and seek the help of specialists in mental health care to assist in the management of the patients in a multi-disciplinary approach. However, as with other FSDs, patients with long COVID are usually reluctant to be managed by mental health care specialists, given the very physical nature of their presentation. Unfortunately, most physicians are in turn reluctant to take care of them, due to poor knowledge about FSD, leading to management failure. Alternatively, a comprehensive multidisciplinary care orchestrated by an experienced internist is generally well-accepted. It includes providing rational cognitive explanations for the symptoms and support for behavioral changes tailored to the patient.

    While waiting for hypothetical randomized controlled trials assessing drugs with positive results, such a holistic approach has been successfully applied in many individuals with severe long COVID. However, its generalization would require a much broader training for FSD of all health care providers.

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    Following the section "A critical approach to the literature" :( is the section "Arguments for a functional disorder" —

    [34] is of course Interventions for the management of long covid post-covid condition: living systematic review (2024, BMJ)
     
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    In my 34 years of ME/CFS the internal medicine doctors were the most unwilling ones to do any testing at all.
    The last one only offered one hematocrit test.
    The first one only willing to pay attention to my thyroid. The other symptoms were dismissed.
    I stopped seeing that one and it could have killed me. Near toxic levels of hyper.
    They've tried everything to boycot finding anything wrong; first in ME/CFS, now in LC.
    CBT an GET proven effective according to the writers of this paper shows how little knowledge they have.
    They've not read about NICE guidelines obviously.
     
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    Ugh, so they don't know what's wrong so it must be psychosomatic, but they can't send us to psychs because we don't like it, so they will provide us with the psych rubbish themselves in multidisciplinary teams. Ugh.

    It's awful seeing such prejudiced ignorant rubbish being presented as the answer to LC after all the years pwME have suffered crap about perfectionism and childhood trauma and exercise avoidance and deconditioning and all the rest.
     
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    It's like reading a treatise by a couple of medieval theoreticians earnestly explaining the theory of the humours and how digestive disorder is caused by excess phlegm driven out from your brain to your stomach by the autumn winds. Those guys probably had a good old sneer at their patients' "never-ending" need for help too.
     
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