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Nice summary. :thumbsup: Aetiological speculation should stay in the research setting for now, and be kept out of clinical management.

The lost opportunity costs from this reckless indulgent decades-long frolic into psychosomatics are just stunning, and compounding rapidly. What I don't get is what the hell does the medical profession think the outcome for them of all this is going to be? There is no way this can end well for...

Declining overall in health status. Problem is trying to tease out other (non-ME) medical issues I am dealing with, and what is causing what. That said, I will discuss with my GP stopping the statins for a bit to see if that helps. They are a long-term treatment and are not critical short-term...

Got any more info on this? Asking as somebody put onto statins a year back.

The mental health movement has gone too far, and too often in the wrong direction.

That is when they mount their old faithful steed, clinical experience, to justify it.

I'd go further than that. Of all the non-genetic influences on health, poverty is the most destructive and insidious of all. If the psych professions really do want to maximise the impact of their own research on psycho-social factors, and deliver the most benefit to the most people, then they...

This. The opportunity to do that whenever needed is arguably the core management tool for ME/CFS.

6. Make completely unjustified assumptions and assertions about causal relationships. 7. Profit!

The term 'wellness' is one the biggest red flags of all about a clinic or claim.

Exactly. The idea that the patient has to be forced into some kind of bizarre 'confession' about their 'mental health issues' before qualifying for real support and treatment, and not even getting it then, is so barbaric I don't have the words for it. It is a particularly disturbing and cruel...

The fact that proper masks (i.e. P2/N95 standard) were not even on that list tells us everything we need to know about this clown and his 'advice'.

:):hug:

:rofl: It's a miracle!

Just another example of why celebrities are not good spokespeople for diseases.

Article was published in one of the most prestigious and prominent medical journals, in 1982. More than forty years on, how much has changed in society or medicine on this issue? Indeed, it is arguable that, courtesy of the psychosomatic gang, things are worse.

Some good reasons to keep any relationship with AfME informal and free range, as it were. Those are some of S4ME's main strengths, I think. We are not too constrained by bureaucracy and diplomacy and funding requirements. We should have only three guiding principles: stay focused on the science...

Some clarification: Painful and requiring much more effort than it should. At least in the sense of them being normal and healthy, but being required to operate outside of their normal parameters by some other pathology within the body. Being overloaded by excessive external demand on them for...

A 75% drop-out rate on its own renders this study invalid. psychosomagicians :D

Both. A combination of projection and defense mechanism. No doubt some other factors in there too, like wanting to hang onto their empires, status, and incomes.