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    Addressing The Diagnostic Void Faced By Patients With Deteriorative Symptoms

    I had a very gradual deterioration over many years, slowly getting worse with pushing past my deterioration threshold, although there were some more sudden worsenings by more major over exertions. My sensory symptoms and sleep issues were particularly gradual. Deteriorative doesn't necessarily...
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    Addressing The Diagnostic Void Faced By Patients With Deteriorative Symptoms

    What can we do to get deterioraters such as myself a suitable diagnosis that fully reflects their symptoms? It's become clear to me that there's no room for permanent damage being believed under an ME diagnosis, not even our own fact sheet says this exists. It all makes me feel very invalidated...
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    The effects of exercise on dynamic sleep morphology in healthy controls and patients with chronic fatigue syndrome, 2013, Kishi et al

    What do you class as genuine ME then? Also which pre-Covid prevalence figures do you believe because the 250,000 figure often cited is derived from the criteria you disqualified? https://meassociation.org.uk/2024/05/how-many-people-have-me-cfs-in-the-uk/
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    If ME/CFS research got £1 billion, what would stop it being wasted?

    Can you elaborate? I've never heard of a information sheet in the context of clinical trials before, how would the information sheet in my trial be any different or less honest from the information sheet in similar research? It's been done before here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20047707/ .
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    If ME/CFS research got £1 billion, what would stop it being wasted?

    If I had that kind of money, the first thing I'd fund is a CBT trial using objective outcomes (actigraphy) before, at 3 months, and after 1 year, just so I can disprove the nonsense that most GPs believe. Hopefully the BPS brigade would lose credibility if my study was well publicized.
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    Donating and fundraising by people with ME/CFS - discussion thread

    What do you think the correct number should be?
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    Donating and fundraising by people with ME/CFS - discussion thread

    Unpopular opinion: I think the pre-Covid 250,000 figure was an over estimate, 250,000 would have been about 0.4% of the UK population at the time, but according to some sources the stricter CCC yields a prevalence of 0.11%. https://meassociation.org.uk/2024/05/how-many-people-have-me-cfs-in-the-uk/
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    What do we mean by a diagnosis like ME/CFS?

    Simon says: A little less T-cells and a little more psychology.
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    What do we mean by a diagnosis like ME/CFS?

    So are you saying that if a patient gets PEM from emotional exertion then their illness is partially psychosomatic?
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    Where can patients argue with clinicians and scientists about bad science in ME/CFS?

    I already made a similar thread here: https://www.s4me.info/threads/challenging-skeptics-including-the-medical-profession-where-are-they.24361/ You can try your luck upon Reddit but there's no guarantee of being listened to: https://old.reddit.com/r/doctorsUK/...
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    Review Brain-regional characteristics and neuroinflammation in ME/CFS patients from neuroimaging: A systematic review and meta-analysis 2023 Lee et al

    This paper praised a brain retraining program which is a huge red flag for me. Reference 33 points to a study of Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue not CFS or ME.
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    What changes the minds of health professionals who hold a BPS view of ME/CFS?

    Unfortunately some won't believe until they get it themselves.
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    News From Jarred Younger / Neuroinflammation, Pain, and Fatigue Laboratory at UAB, From Aug 2020

    046 - Does oxaloacetate reduce ME/CFS fatigue? @6:40 He mentions using the Chalder Fatigue Scale uncritically, so this is not a study of PEM-ME.
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    Best US Charities to Donate to?

    What dodgy studies have they funded? I did a quick search but found this instead: https://meassociation.org.uk/complementary-treatments/ I'm kind of disappointed that the ME Association weren't more critical of alternative medicine, I got the feeling they were trying to be neutral not to upset...
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    VuMedi: Dr Shepherd talks about the overlaps between Long Covid and ME/CFS in a video aimed at healthcare professionals

    He doesn't mention damage from exercise anywhere in the video. I'm repeating myself again but Shepherd represents and advocates for Ramsay-ME and not PEM-ME.
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    Multiple Chemical Sensitivity: A Clinical Perspective, 2024, Jaques

    Symptoms from odors should be treated as if they are just as real and deteriorative as PEM from light or sound.
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    The Concept of ME/CFS, 2024, Edwards

    DEID - Deteriorative Exertion Intolerance Disease.
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    The Concept of ME/CFS, 2024, Edwards

    Are you condoning the use of the Oxford criteria for ME? Why conflate Fibromyalgia with ME? They are opposites, Fibromyalgia is a non-deteriorative diagnosis with patients often reporting improvement from exercise whereas ME is deteriorative illness with patients often reporting relapse from...
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