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Thank you mods for splitting the thread and for relocating these posts relating to ICD-11's BDD and ICD-11 PHC's proposed BSS under this existing "Updates on status of ICD-11 and changes to other classification and terminology systems" thread. Resources: Status of ICD-11 processed proposals...

Please note that I am now back in retirement.

I stand by my statement that the "core" or "simple" or "basic" iteration of proposed criteria for ICD-11 PHC's Bodily stress syndrome (BSS) is not "similar to" or "essentially the same as" the ICD-11 Bodily distress disorder (BDD) construct in conceptualization, essential features, disorder...

Comparison of key features of SSD, BDD and proposed BSS PNG version: https://dxrevisionwatch.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/comp-ssd-bdd-bss-v2.png PDF version: https://dxrevisionwatch.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/comparison-of-ssd-bdd-and-bss-v3.pdf Adapted from Table: Comparison of SSD, BDD...

But that is not what I have said - I have not said the "core" BSS construct is the same as Fink's BDS. I have posted the Rosendal/PCCG Group presentation slides. This is what I posted (from the Rosendal/PCCG Group presentation slides): which I have not said is the same as the Fink et al...

To clarify: BSS and BDS cannot be added as a "bolt-on" diagnosis where symptoms are better explained by a general medical condition - but SSD and BDD can be added as bolt-ons. Proposed ICD-11 PHC BSS: "If the symptoms are accounted for by a known physical disease this is not BSS." Fink et al's...

Dr O'Leary asks: It's unclear to me what Dr O'Leary means by the above. Who wants to convince people of the above? My own position is: SSD is very problematic for all patients, including ME, CFS patients [1-3]. BDD is very problematic for all patients, including ME, CFS patients [1-3]. Any...

Call for the "basic" or "simple" or "core" BSS and you are calling for a Fink BDS light.

What I am saying is that the core construct for the proposed ICD-11 PHC is not essentially the same as ICD-11's BDD as you are asserting. The core construct for BSS remains based on symptom clusters or patterns from body systems attributable to autonomic arousal or general symptoms of tiredness...

These are the most recently published criteria for ICD-11 PHC's proposed BSS construct: Presentation: Rosendale, M (2017). MUS becomes Bodily Stress Syndrome in the ICD-11 for primary care [3]: Slides #22 and #23: They are adapted from the original Lam et al proposals [1]. Note: ICD-11...

Dr O'Leary states: but Dr O'Leary has previously stated (my emphasis): "What Can We Do About It? "It is very important to be clear and focused about the nature of the objection. ME advocates have no reason to object to the basic criteria for BSS in the ICD for primary care, ICD-11-PHC. In...

Fink re Bodily Distress Syndrome and Bodily Stress Disorder [sic]* and the ICD-11 core edition (ICD-11 MMS): *Where Fink says "Bodily Stress Disorder", he is referring to "Bodily stress syndrome (BSS)" the construct recommended by the Goldberg led, PCCG working group that were charged with...

Journal of Evaluation in Clinical Practice, Version of Record online: 01 August 2019: Original Paper: White PD. A perspective on causation of the chronic fatigue syndrome by considering its nosology. QED.

Given the actions taken against me by the Countess of Mar, in April 2018, following public and private criticism of a number of statements made by Dr O'Leary in briefing documents for Forward-ME and in various published papers, I am not prepared to engage directly with Dr O'Leary.

August 04, 2019 by email: To: Lia Curtin, Editorial Assistant; Professor Andrew Miles, Regional Editor, UK & Europe CC: Peter Denton White, Emeritus Professor of Psychological Medicine, Wolfson Institute of Preventive Medicine, Queen Mary University of London Dr Christopher Chute, John...

Dr O'Leary has also stated: "What Can We Do About It? "It is very important to be clear and focused about the nature of the objection. ME advocates have no reason to object to the basic criteria for BSS in the ICD for primary care, ICD-11-PHC. In fact, it is in the interests of ME patients to...

As some of you will be aware, the ICD-10 code F48.0 Neurasthenia and its inclusion, Fatigue syndrome has been retired for ICD-11 (along with most of the ICD-10 F45.x Somatoform disorders codes) and replaced with the single new category: C620 Bodily distress disorder and three coded for severity...

This post and the following ones have been moved from this thread. As some of you will be aware, the ICD-10 code F48.0 Neurasthenia and its inclusion, Fatigue syndrome has been retired for ICD-11 (along with most of the ICD-10 F45.x Somatoform disorders codes) and replaced with the single new...

http://www.londonhp.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/MUS-whole-systems-approach.pdf Medically Unexplained Symptoms (MUS) A whole systems approach July 2009 – December 2010 Page 20 "It may be possible within the new polyclinic model that the routine of psychologists working with consultants...

With apologies if this has already been posted: NHS Digital https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-information/publications/statistical/psychological-therapies-report-on-the-use-of-iapt-services/may-2019-final-including-reports-on-the-iapt-pilots Publication Psychological Therapies: reports on the...