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And mine. Until we have good means to test those differences we are flying half-blind. The only differences so far that seem important are how broad the definition is (e.g. Oxford v. CCC), and whether PEM is included (and even that is probably not well defined enough yet, but I think that...

Very important distinction.

Reading Wessely's first half dozen publications on ME/CFS is very revealing. His view on it was fixed from day one, and he has not deviated since, other than an early concession that it was not just a form of depression. Also shows his highly political style of debate was there from the start too.

Maybe the structural changes reflected nothing more than changes in questionnaire scoring behaviour, independent of any actual practical therapeutic benefit. Gross incompetence, or straight fraud?

MUS World, where inconsistency is a feature, not a bug.

A problem suppressed is a problem magnified. Solutions usually work better the earlier they are applied.

So why didn't they show up in PACE or FINE? PACE used Oxford criteria. Doesn't get much broader and more non-specific than that in this field. But they couldn't even get a result with that. I agree that we must avoid getting into pointless arguments with individuals that could be in any way...

Good. I encourage the pair of them to go on acting in public like the arrogant entitled reckless arse-clowns they really are. The more of it their non-psych colleagues in the UK see, the sooner they will shove them aside. And don't you just love Wessely lecturing others about the importance of...

How N95 masks work.

Agree. Support from across the political spectrum makes policy change both more likely and more durable when it happens. Also agree that now is not the moment to push PACE at The Times. Overall this round of coverage is quite good so far. Give it time to sink in.

Cowards.

For a start, it is 3.2 million pounds less they can grab from the UK research pot to further indulge their delusions.

Thank you, Sonya. :thumbup: :hug:

A special thanks to @Simon M. :thumbup: :hug:

Besides surviving, the most important goal for us was to get good physiological researchers interested. The fact that this project is happening in the UK is almost as significant as the fact that it is happening.