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I don't know if it is that, or the consequences of producing/using energy. Our energy production system might be okay, but what it is being asked to do, the context in which is is required to function, might be outside its operating parameters.

It's nothing more than an empire building cult. The important thing to know about cults is that they never end well. For anybody, including the cult leaders.

Yep.

unhelpful beliefs and behaviours... ...misperceptions of effort... None of which have ever been demonstrated to exist in patients, let alone to be the problem. They are simply asserted to be true. This is the real psychopathology.

New patients are typically uninformed and desperate, and that makes them easy pickings for the incompetent and the unscrupulous.

My son got better with Cognitive Behavioural Therapy from a gifted therapist at King's College Hospital https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/professor-sir-simon-wessely

And the desperate, as most of us here have been at some point, especially early on, and made fools of ourselves, before we learned the real story. I feel very much for patients hit with the FND label and sucked into that vortex. It is an awful situation to be in. But I also know they are...

And us. Thank you. :):hug:

It is a very seductive tale to the uninformed. So the relevance of trauma is...?

:thumbsup::hug:

And what if the hips also have other problems, like osteoarthritis?

I don't wish to write off all of psych. There are honourable exceptions. But the profession is collectively guilty of failing to pull their wayward colleagues back into line. It is outrageous that sick patients have been left to do the bulk of the profession's dirty work for them, and take all...

Time to start cranking up the lawsuits.

As is tradition for CBT, et al.

Let alone if it is intrinsically pathological, or even indicative of pathology elsewhere.

+1 Very good discussion.

Not a complete waste of time, but certainly a good measure of how poorly understood it all is. This.

Funding bodies and ethics committees are as much the problem as anybody. They could stop this nonsense overnight, if they wanted to.

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We can (and indeed must) accept the immediate realities before us, and all the limitations they impose upon us, without accepting that they will or should stay that way.