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Stopped watching. Two interventions before Monaghan has been allowed to say anything.

This idea that membership of a support group was likely to be harmful was widely disseminated at an early stage. Today I came across this clearly unsourced, second hand statement by two of whom I had never heard. "Furthermore the patients' illness behaviour is likely to be perpetuated by...

Could Wessely and co possibly have been referring to the "study" of which he said, after MS called it a "well conducted case series", "You were in fact too kind to our study, Dr Sharpe. This was not a study at all; we were just trying to treat people (Butler et al 1991)We started this treatment...

@Esther12 Unfortunately that last link says Page Not Found. Thanks for that. In that Lancet paper, as well as PDW's statement, MS does also state that "he has done voluntary and paid consultancy work for government and for legal and insurance companies and received royalties....." My...

Have we previously seen the admission of paid consultancy work for the UK government. It was obviously suspected but, to me at least, this seems a significant statement. Perhaps MS could be pressed for details.

This point about David being paid is a very strange one to introduce into the argument. Have we not often wondered what payments might have been made by insurance companies for reports, advice, consultancy etc., and when the first such payments might have been made?

On this point there is an interesting comment by Sharpe during the discussion which followed the presentation of Edwards' paper at the CIBA conference in 1992: "I would suggest that there may be other patient characteristics that are more useful than symptoms in predicting outcome and response...

Should they not first have gone back a stage further and looked for evidence which would refute the conjecture about fear of exercise being a contributory factor in the illness? There is plenty of evidence from the stories told on this site that, for many people, no such belief existed and that...

I think I should correct that. It is said that there is already such a law in Scotland. That may be because that is a country where national dress requires men to wear a skirt.

Another way of presenting the findings might have been to say that 95.5% of those undergoing treatment gave no indication of having been sexually abused as a child, which, according to some statistics, is probably well below the norm. Though one should not necessarily believe those statistics.

I may have missed it but do we not need to know the total number treated, the effects of treatment on those for whom there are no claims of "repressed memory", and no doubt many other things.

We know how trustworthy some doctors are. They would of course never knowingly make untrue statements in public, recorded, talks. And then, before the furore quite died down, repeat them. Would they?

Well, he is a Yorkshireman. EDit in response to JE's post

Have they ever tried to calculate the effect on depression and anxiety of implied duress in persuading those unfit for employment to return to work? Admittedly there are difficult issues involved; the problem is in deciding who can be trusted to deal with them reliably. On another thread about...

Yes that is true, but it is a level of activity which may be beyond me for the moment. If MEA and AFME do not consider it expedient to protect their reputations by prompt and appropriate action, so be it. Perhaps we should give others the opportunity to distinguish themselves from the old ways.

I know that I will be regarded as a conspiracy theorist but I think there is a whole layer behind this that we have never got close to understanding. When I first read the report on the Oxford conference I somewhat naively thought that Clare chaired the meeting as a known media expert with the...

Could it possibly be the case that the evidence for it being good for the ill to be employed is that it is bad for people's health to lose employment? I would say possibly, given the intellects involved. EDIT I must have been a long time in composing that as I did not see the post above.

You cynic.

Has there ever been a meaningful study of the male to female ratio under the different criteria? What makes me ask is that I was recently reading a paper by Pelosi and Lawrie of epidemiological findings around Glasgow . I think it was 1994. it suggested equal numbers of males and females...

I think we should wait and see before being critical of Iime. We do not know what it was that they witnessed, or who was involved. There certainly seems to have been some presumptuous behaviour and a lack of good manners, which no doubt contributed to the impression formed.