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Has anyone seen this EMDR study by Knoop? https://www.emdria.org/resource/eye-movement-desensitization-and-reprocessing-therapy-in-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-a-single-case-experiment-testing-the-effect-on-persistent-negative-evaluation-of-fatigue/

Good catch! They're really misrepresenting the guidance in a way that makes their pathetic findings look marginally better. Also ironic is their claim that the study could be under-representing the effect--if they had compared it to no treatment at all instead of the standard care. It's like...

Yes I was really struck by how minuscule that difference was. Even if it were barely above the minimally significant threshold, it’s still would be miniscule.

Basically they proved that people getting a lot of attention are more likely to report feeling better than people who didn't get the attention. I mean, that would be true whether or not the partiipants have a major illness.

Yeah. They finally sent me the proof yesterday for approval. That was a very problematic process overall but I'm glad it's finally out. In the next few days I'll post a smack-down of their response. As I figured, they're trying to justify it by saying that the additional people might have been...

In the latest update, they have now published the response to our letter with a link to the pre-print of our letter--to be replaced in a day or two, I assume by the actual proof from the journal. They have also now added the proper citation for our letter to the response. As I mentioned, the...

They've contacted me and I've reposted their tweets, but I don't know much more.

So...the production side screwed up and our letter is reportedly being published in a couple of days. However, the editor declined to add the citation for our letter among the ones listed at the end. He said the review of the response is over, and it will be understood from the context that...

Interesting that this is coming from Univ of Bristol--home of the methologically and ethically challenged Professor Crawley. I wonder what she thinks of this study??

The response is about what I expected. But yes, interestingly, so far the letter itself hasn't been published. Moreover, the letter is mentioned in the first sentence of their response but not included in the list of citations at the end! I've written the journal editor requesting an explanation...

They mention that in a few cases the definition of CFS used was a cut-off on an appropriate scale--i e the chalder fatigue scale

Stingl is one of the co-authors of the letter of concern. Did he say something different elsewhere?

That's good. I was there like six or seven years ago--can't remember now--and met with various folks.

that's what I wondered.

what specific tweet or tweets were those?

This seems pointless on multiple levels.

Who are these people that keep producing such bullshit?

At least they're consistent.

yes, but the water had gotten kind of cold by the end!!

No worries, I took "whore's baths" in between.