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From @Simbindi 's post up thread, which quotes from the DWP consultation response document i believe. Which appears to say (assuming the word 'currently' is used in the normal way to mean 'at the present time'), that those of us who are, right now (Nov 2023) in that category - ie have been...

thanks @MEMarge its not you thats confusing its the regime! so the work coach visit was *before* the fit note was issued? or in the interim between fit note being issued & LCWRA being granted. I'm trying to determine whether these WRA she was given, were given to her as a general UC claimant...

Sorry @MEMarge i'm confused. I dont understand anything about UC, dont know what a fit note has to do with the WCA? Are fit notes required for UC even once you been put in LCW/LCWRA groups? Under what rules/grouping you were at the job centre at that point? My initial question was what do the...

absolutely

its a joke really.... by dint of being a claimant you are vulnerable to some degree, which claimant is not vulnerable?

In view of all this, i wonder how keen they will be to reassess me (supposedly due in feb but been deferred the last 3 times). Does 'currently' mean literally now, in november 2023... ie does it mean that my scheduled reassessment in 2024 wont happen... or does 'currently' mean at the time the...

AFAIK there are no plans to move legacy contribution based ESA support group claimants... only Income Related.

yes its interesting because they started moving people off Incapacity Benefit in approx 2010/11? I was moved over to ESA in 2013, but there are still people on IB even now - still not moved over more than a decade later, so.... ??? still plenty of people on DLA too, still not moved to PIP.

I cant understand what them stopping reassessments for people already in LCWRA/SG means. It appears to be written as if it's being done to enable people to engage with the new incentives to try working/get support to do so without the threat of being reassessed/losing benefits. But what if you...

yay, by sheer chance i found it the first page i scanned i thought i'd never manage to read through but it was on the first one i scanned :) its post#352 should anyone else want it man its really hard/detailed & cognitive difficulties unfriendly, but my carer might be able to find the useful...

how do i find out what they might deem that to be?

Ah, i stand corrected re the substantial risk rule, thanks for that. Will edit my post From the benefits and work live updates on the autumn statement, now this... EDited: to remove smileys as I'm sure i must be misinterpreting it - sounds like it might be good for some people but???:cautious:

its got nothing to do with whther they define as physical or not, it will apply mostly to people who will likely commit suicide if they are forced into it, or would be likely to harm someone. Its about whether they deem it serious enough. I imagine it will cover conditions such as paranoid...

from Autumn statement live updates (benefitsandwork.co.uk) There isnt an emoji for the depth of despair i am in right now. There is no way for me to stay in the LCWRA or SG at next assessment after this is imposed. You only need 15 points to qualify for the LCW group, i score 96 across the rest...

it certainly wont be included - remember the NHS website considers the main ME/CFS symptom to be "extreme tiredness". Considering most of the working population consider themselves to be extremely tired every day, they certainly will not view it as a risk to us to do more than we are capable.

So as far as they're concerned nobody is unable to work. I saw somewhere there'd be exemptions for people having cancer treatment. But i know several people who happily kept working through long months of chemo, just had the day after their chemo off but otherwise carried on pretty much as...

Thank you. Just a massive thank you. And to you too @Simbindi

Well sorry but its beyond poor, its abysmal. It sounds like the person writing it has no idea of the difficulties or the benefits system. ITs shocking. The issue is that without the WCA we'll all be subject to untrained work coaches to decide what work or work related activity we have to do...

MEA did, there was a link to their submission on their fb page. But i hadnt the energy or emotional robustness to read it.

yes that would be a major concern, and a waste of funds.... although if it was a study which needed, for example, participants to have a test which was very painful or would take a long recovery time, in comparison to the burden of the problem being researched - & therefore the cost to potential...