I was specifically referring to the performance at the ventilatory threshold, not VO2Peak.
The conclusions that the authors are making about VO2Peak are assuming that patients and controls actually achieved their VO2Max, something which I am sceptical about.
Why would we assume that patients...
Yes, the real placebo effect is a transient reduction in pain due to conditioning of the bodies endorphin system. There is some biological evidence of this. This system has obvious evolutionary advantage, namely being able to temporarily suppress pain for the purpose of escaping danger.
Yes, an RER of 1 or 1.1 or whatever does not indicate that participants have necessarily reached a true VO2Max.
To clarify my view, I do believe that the true VO2Max on the second day in patients will be lower than the first day, but methodological constraints means this is hard to capture...
The ventilatory threshold is much more interesting than merely the turning point to anerobic energy production. So much more is going on at that point, including increased neural drive from the brain, recruitment of substantially more muscle fibres and there is also an autonomic response -...
Many patients in these studies were not exercised enough to reach true VO2Max. RER=1.1, age predicted HR etc are merely suggestive.
Patients have to be pushed harder in terms of perceived exertion (which is basically central drive) to achieve VO2Max and the level of encouragement etc is...
This study did reproduce the major consistent finding so far: reduced performance at the ventilatory threshold. The 8th study so far if we include the study based on a single pair of twins.
The VO2Peak findings have been inconsistent because patients have not been consistently exercising to...
The "placebo response" in patients is highly likely to be the same as it is in any other group of people. The problem is a variety of reporting biases are being bundled up as a "placebo effect" and then claiming that the placebo effect* is magically high in some cases and low in others. When the...
It means that patients performed better on the 2nd CPET (72 hours after) than the first CPET, so there was no effect of PEM on performance after 72 hours. There is generally a mild performance increase the second time a person does a CPET, basically because they are more familiar with what they...
Wessely/Deale/Chalder 1995 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7709961
Which is totally contradictory to their conclusion from their review of "placebo" responses in clinical trials:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15784798
He also seems to be quite aware that patients don't actually...
Yes, as I said in my first post - all the hate demonstrated against antivaxxers on the internet is hardly going to change their mind. All of those people going on nasty tirades against antivaxxers on the internet, are at best, are wasting their time.
Here are the number of diagnosed cases of vaccine preventable illnesses and number of deaths in the USA from 1950 onwards.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/e/reported-cases.pdf
And I'll also come out and say it: antivaxxers still annoy me because they're...
Because they lack knowledge of those fields. Many doctors for example, don't understand the necessity of double-blinding to control bias in clinical trials and many doctors think that unblinded randomised non-pharmacological trials are unbiased.
The authors of that review don't seem to know what a "placebo response" even is. Changes in subjective outcome measures in a blinded control group from baseline cannot automatically be attributed to placebo effects as they can be due to a wide variety of biases.
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