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  1. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    Does your body type need to consume 2174 calories per day? If you are with ME and worse than mild severity I highly doubt you need this many calories unless you are a tall person. If you are overweight you should've also put a 20% deficit in the keto calculator I mentioned. I'm male, 180cm...
  2. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    As I mentioned in earlier posts, keto sites have very different and conflicting recommendations on protein intake to stay in ketosis. I only gave that link on perfectketo to show you what other kinds of meat you can eat. Please go here to find the best ketogenic macro calculator and find out...
  3. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    You don't need to eat belly pork, or pork at all if it bothers you. I eat chicken with skin (all parts of bird), different cuts of steak, veal, lamb, duck, salmon, sardines, mackerel, scallops, the list goes on and on. There are so many choices. Here's a good place to get your started...
  4. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    I never eat butter, why do you have to drown meat in butter? I just eat meats with seasoning. It's so easy with this diet to get enough fats from foods which are high in fat. The hard thing usually is to get enough protein.
  5. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    I never got any keto flu at all or felt like my body was finding it hard to adapt really. And after my recent crash, two weeks after I started and where I ate carbs, I had to start again and it was just as easy. This second time it took a few more days to get into deep ketosis but there was...
  6. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    One study doesn't mean it's settled science, very far from it. I would also avoid in general because it keeps your brain wanting sweet tastes, instead of rewiring your brain to get used to never caring for sweet things anymore. I've been on this diet 3 weeks or so now and I never want anything...
  7. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    Ahem... in terms of evolving to such a diet 12,000 years is NOTHING. We haven't evolved to support modern diets, if you need more evidence just look around and see how many lifestyle diseases and other ailments human beings are constantly afflicted with. Yes some are due to pollution etc, but...
  8. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    Intermittent fasting. I tried to give a summary of my transition and recommendations in my OP.
  9. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    I think you are missing the point. Just because man didn't have almond milk, coconut cream and avocados doesn't mean that for millions of years of evolution our ancestors and us didn't eat with similar proportions of macros. The important point @Sly Saint is that Homo sapiens and our ancestors...
  10. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    I know it's really hard to decide what to do, given all the + and - anecdotal and scientific evidence. As I mentioned in my reply to @Nathalie Wright, we have ME and it's a really horrible, life destroying disease. There is no solid scientific evidence for any treatment. It's all trial and...
  11. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    The only kinds of desserts I've made are like @Trish mentioned, nice and simple with whole food ingredients. I would try to avoid any sugar substitutes, stevia, erythritol, etc. as much as possible, keto or otherwise. They are proven to trick your body into thinking you are eating sugar and...
  12. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    I found @Sid's post on PR here https://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/lack-of-chatter-about-the-ketogenic-diet.39359/page-9#post-813383. For those interested the entire thread is also interesting. She reported her own experiences along with references to anecdotal reports on other...
  13. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    I could be totally misunderstanding your question but here goes... we need to monitor because the food environment around us is not the food environment we and our ancestors evolved in for millions of years. Food is everywhere and it's so easy to no pay attention, there are carbs snuck into...
  14. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    I don’t know where she got those reports because I haven’t found them on any forum. And you have to take everything with a grain of salt, if there were a couple people who did you have no idea what their health situation was ME or otherwise, and you have no idea what kind of keto they were...
  15. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    DietDoctor is good, although I found different keto sites to give differing and often conflicting advice. I would read and compare multiple. ruledme.com is very good one of my top choices and perfectketo.com is pretty good.
  16. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    For sure long-term. The hugely significant symptom improvements have been a life saver for me so far, nothing else has ever worked at all for me. While I’m still not the person I was before I got ME, and I do have a few small symptom blips, I think I can avoid crashing again and have now bought...
  17. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    The web. There is so much free and quality info out there on keto... honestly though I don’t think it’s complicated at all to follow, so wouldn’t justify a manual or book, especially one that you pay for! This week I haven’t even been tracking anything with my keto app, just as an experiment...
  18. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    It's your call @Nathalie Wright and do what you think is best. I've already crossed the "giving medical advice" line twice in this thread and had to be edited. The state of treatments for ME and their supporting scientific evidence is extremely poor, it's really unfortunate and a major reason...
  19. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    Hi @Nathalie Wright - Definitely I’ve read many stories of people requiring a lot of time to get adjusted, here, on PR, and elsewhere. Like others have said, everyone’s body is different. Also to repeat what was mentioned, in the beginning you lose quite a bit of electrolytes because insulin...
  20. leokitten

    Ketogenic diet

    FYI for everyone... why you shouldn’t do your glucose and ketone measurements first thing in the morning, before waking up your body raises your glucose to get you up out of bed and going. It’s called the “dawn phenomenon” and actually starts a few hours before you wake up. For that reason it’s...
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