Thanks @Sly Saint !
It's the trick they've used from the earliest times, talking about unknown aetiology and/or lack of single biomarker like it means "no physical abnormalities that indicate illness can be found".
(Another trick is that you can't find treatable disease, the added adjective...
I once asked a similar question (how this paper's author was able to detect the bacteria in - I believe it was semen and vaginal mucus?); the answer was that labs don't work with dark field microscopes anymore for detection. They used to detect syphilis this way (also a spirochete), but then a...
Reacting as a layperson: Don't they expect to have extra good results then if participants have done GET followed by CBT?
In the example Michiel Tack gave me this week it concerned the control group.
I thought: what a nice loophole, offering your control group the tried out therapy (CBT), and...
Hey wait, that is a little bit different then in the pauze puzzle thread I think?
There I have
8/7 quality assurance sign off.
26/7 resignations
30/7 sign off guideline by Guideline Executive
Which is about the same, but looking at NICE's answers it seems like the 8/7 was the actual sign off...
Page 28 of the PACE trial CBT manual for therapists.
I thought it might be of interest for people responding to the RC nonsense. (If I'm posting in the wrong thread, then I'm sorry mods!)
It looks to be dated 2002 (so that's how I put it in my files, although from the title I think it was also part of the original PDF's name). I don't know if it is the final used version or from e.g. an application for funding, as I am not so much at home with the PACE trial. (Someone else might...
I'm afraid there are a couple, which read like the usual oldfashioned CBT. It's where the BPS/CBT proponents obviously got their bit in.
Which is why it's vital that patients understand well that they are allowed and even expected to stay within their limits (as well as they can, this being...
I'd guess doctors, GP's, their members, journalists and the general public (I'm sure it'll be used as a press release), basically the network that can uphold their status quo for a while by being influenced.
The names (Royal Colleges of X) are a brand, so whatever they say seems to carry weight.
People have been suffering badly under the old guidelines, which were fine by them.
Now there are new ones, which include a careful review of the evidence (which they hate for personal reasons), and that are celebrated (or semi-celebrated because not enough/there's been so much pain and...
ps: Good luck with your tooth @Simbindi
And @adambeyoncelowe and @Keela Too , it must be so nice to finally be free to talk about the guideline and its process! (Adam, also thanks for the elaborations on how and why certain decisions were made.)
Doing poorly, so unfortunately I can't join in the discussion much atm. Just wanted to drop by to give everyone, and especially the people who were directly involved in developing the NICE guidelines, a big :thumbup::emoji_cake:.
I see quite some possible pitfalls that need careful vigilance...
Yes, this is the direction Knoop is heading in for a while now: just chucking everything on a great big heap under a CBT empire for everything.
I really wish some good investigative journalism would be set loose on it (connections, sponsors etc.), but that doesn't really happen much in The...
No, I don't, but I would not be surprised if that would be uncovered to be be NHS policy. I have not looked into it much, but I've seen glimpses in The Netherlands of MUS briefings for I believe our version of the DWP where the same types of advice are given. I strongly suspect doctors are also...
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