edit: Mixed the names of the hospitals, thought he worked there. Now i am as suprised as you are, unless they have been working together on other projects.
I'll save you some time.
1. Math is beautiful.
2. The more math you know the more beauty you have.
3. Mathematicians know the most math...
*Not able to forumalte my thoughts properly so sorry if this is a bit messy.
I also wonder about the ethical aspects. I don't think psychologists are allowed to 'treat' people people with similar methods. The having you deny your reality and what your senses are telling you and so on. They can...
I still can't wrap my head around people talking about LP as if it's a legit thing.
From what i remember LP cured anorexia, ocd, dyslexia, ms and so on by NLP / the secret on steroids mechanisms. Thinking good healthy thoughts -> activates the bodies natural healing channels (whatever that...
Completely agree, but reference 49 lead me to a text that said this:
"One of the assumptions of the transtheoretical approach is that therapists should be at least as cognitively complex as their clients."
Ok good, I am aware i sometimes can be unclear in my writing.
Well yes, i dont think they are allowed to refer to alternative therapies. But in norway i felt they didnt care, atleast back in the day... So you kind of didnt have a choice. Either LP or loose welfare payments in some cases...
I might have been a awkard in my wording, as i was talking about LP and then general case with cults.
I was tinking it would be difficult to stop cults and weird therapies in general.
But I completly agree, no one in the health care system should ever have recommended LP, or any other...
Yes, and in our case, blame us for not wanting to get healthy, or are not doing it right. Which conveniently fits the public perception, and they get away with whatever the are doing.
I read some more about cults, they say it's common knowledge amongst magicians & hypnotherapists that a subset...
yea... I want to point out again, not excuse her behaviour, but that this was a long time ago. And they were new at this when i took the course, so they have hopefully calmed down a bit.
I also do seem to remember reading somewhere Live said they do not hand out any papers. (I'm taking that as...
Thanks for listening and all the comments everyone. I've not been able to go through all of them, i might come back and answer more at a later time.
Yes, i'm not planning on going after my coach per say. That being said, there was a girl in her 20's who asked if we should exchange contact...
It's fine now. Don't blame them. I've been desperate enough to pretend i could get healthy plenty of times during the following years all by myself.
Another reason why this giving people false hope thing is so bad, as accepting there is something severely wrong with you so you don't cause more...
The apllication forms do not contain anything bad per se, except the usual check if you are willing and so on.
I acctually had a spot to go see PP himself, so i'll add the application from 2008. And the norwegian one used in 2008.
And the last pages of the course materials, friends and family...
E) Some final thoughts
I believe this is how one starts a cult. If they were more organized and had more regular gatherings, I’m sure LP would have ended up like scientology. It just took a different path and ended up as a profitable enterprise instead.
About the ‘method’
From what I...
E) Excerpts from the course papers
page 9:
(Training you how to respond to those not in the know). They say we will go through them on day 3.
“Friends – how will they react to the sudden changes you have gained?”
“Will there be anyone who do not want to like it, be skeptical, won’t be...
This was the last I heard from them, except for a few mails in 2011 inviting me to a free information lecture + invitations to pay for more courses. All of them ending in this information is confidential and for the recipient eyes only. And one from 2013 saying my now ex-lp coach have started a...
D) The follow up phone call
I have little memories from the time after the course, so I don’t know when, but I did talk to her once after maybe around 1-3 months.
The call was basically her trying to get me to say I was healthy. She also asked me some questions, about how long I had been sick...
I sat there distraught for a while not knowing what to do. My memories are vague from that point on, I believe I signed I was healthy and left, as I just wanted away from there.
After the course, I was back to being bedridden. My parents had calmed down. They occasionally told me my coach had...
5. The contract
At the end of the 3rd day we were given the contract. I tried to read through it, my eyes didn’t really function at that point so my effort where futile. At the bottom it had two large squares, one saying:
§ I'm healthy
§ I'm not healthy
She said we didn’t need to read it...
* I don’t know if this is a random graph, if it’s used by PP or if it’s the graph from Wyllers study (don’t remember the date of his findings). If the latter, I ofc can’t know if they used it without his permission or if he was involved at this stage. But Lives PhD application for the Norwegian...
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