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But, for the avoidance of doubt, it seems unlikely that SW was anywhere near the scene at the time, nor that he had given instructions for this to happen. However, had it not been for his intervention this event might not have occurred. Going back to 1987 there seem to be important issues for...

When people use the phrase "thrown in at the deep end" how often do they mean that someone was thrown in at the deep end?

If Greenhalgh considers Callard to be an "expert by experience" after 6 or 7 months, does she, without question, accept the expertise by experience of those who have suffered from ME for 30, 40, or 50years. I think we should be told.

You should see their answers to the Chalder Fatigue Questionnaire.

How many non-specific symptoms does someone have to have before being regarded as having "Long Covid"? Is it necessary to have all of those , or only some, and if only some, are any obligatory?

Does not the suggestion that "long Covid" may be be four different, though possibly overlapping, syndromes make that slide appear foolish.? Why would one expect potentially four syndromes to be treated in like manner, let alone in the same manner as ME?

One wonders how this dialogue between the two groups is to take place. Will it be the entirety of the groups conversing or only select individuals? Is there "overlap" in te membership of the groups? I should Know, but I forget.

Is this a debate over the meaning of "thrown", and possible idiomatic usage? Whilst I'm on this thread I did notice something interesting in http://www.margaretwilliams.me/2017/quotable-quotes-continued.pdf @p26 2012 A modern perspective on some of the most highly cited JNNP papers of all...

KCL union rules apply then.

What experience, research or otherwise, does Turner stokes have with ME? I see nothing particularly relevant on researchgate. She seems to be an expert on rehabilitation, but rehabilitation from what?

Let's have a poll of patients diagnosed with MUS to see what term they want to use.

It was surprising to see such apparent surprise expressed. Was it not known that such things went on with the approval of those from the Maudsley and KCL?

Are there any known examples of "perfectionists" suffering an acute viral illness and not experiencing perpetuation of symptoms? If so, why?

It's already known as CFS. Cessation of Function Syndrome.

What's the problem with that "executive dysfunction" is a major cause of problems in ME? Executive - a person with senior managerial responsibility within a business or organisation.

As the above quote illustrates, many participants did much work to self-advocate by emailing, telephoning or otherwise cajoling providers to make referrals or circumvent bottlenecks. These efforts occasionally included attempts – perhaps out of desperation – to ‘play’ an algorithm-driven system...

I'm not sure how good an idea it is to talk about the "wandering and wavering" of patients". A bit of alliteration always scores highly for artistic effect, but it runs the risk of revealing too much about the authors view. Style over substance.

Are the secondary benefits of writing trash papers ever studied? Knighthoods, for example.

What sort of "fact" is it to "have a functional somatic syndrome"? Is the word "fact" being given its normal usage? It may be a "fact" that some people would attribute that diagnosis to those patients.

The GP's function is to administer and put into effect the NICE guidelines. If this causes difficulties with patients, what measures has Gerada taken to address the issues? She should direct her comments in both directions.