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The trouble with a word like "mean" is that it can have so many meanings. I was recently trying to discover why exactly Arthur Kleinman might have been considered an appropriate candidate to chair the Ciba conference of long ago, alongside Shorter. What a pair Kleinman and Shorter. I...

It would be interesting to hear, in due course, how the medical staff are redeployed and how there apparent expertise is to be used.

I rather suspected that. Is there any evidence for the proposition that funding required for this centre has been diverted, or may be needed elsewhere?

There must be no plans to diagnose post covid patients as having ME. Seems a strange decision when there might be an increase in demand.

I don't understand it, but it sounds interesting. I wonder whether they could find anything in the inflammatory model to account for relapse and remission.

Some journalist ought to interview Paul Cheney to discuss the cognitive impairment he found in his patients, what he reported to the CDC, and what they did about it.

I think that the problem with this paper, which I have not tried to analyse, I no longer have the capacity, is that the authors and probably Sharpe as well, have not looked at how the "illness" concept was originally used in ME type cases. I am assuming that it was Eisenberg, in 1977, who first...

Easy. You define "same" in such a way as to make them different.

Wasn't there a time when it was considered customary? I forget.

It is rather surprising that the author makes little attempt to cite evidence in support of his claims.

Don't you mean it would be functional..? We must keep up with the times.

Such an elegant theory....and such a pity that it bears so little relation to the evidence.

I suppose the question to be asked of Dr Manoj Sivan is how he differentiates between those patients who he thinks may benefit from GET, and those who won't , or is he concerned only with the health of those who may?

Is it maladaptive behaviour to keep on, and on, with publishing these views?

The problem comes at the next stage when you present the findings as "real" rather than statistical probability.

@AR68 I see you have discussion about PK Thomas and his links to the RFH and Queen Square. That persuaded me to look further and I came across this He got a first-class degree in anatomy in 1947 and his medical degree in 1950, followed by an MD in 1956. During this time he held a variety of...

There has certainly been strange behaviour displayed at an official level, but the interest with brucellosis is perhaps that it has so often been thought necessary to exclude it as a diagnosis. On reflection I think that the problem with the influenza papers is the apparent determination to...

I suppose the fear will be that if and when distinctions come to be made, those with PVFS will be ignored, in accordance with recent practice.

Looking back through the thread it appears hat it would have been Bart's where the patient was diagnosed with hysteria, before admission, or readmission to RFH. I have often been rather surprised by the tendency for believers in the hysteria hypothesis to snipe anonymously from the deep cover...

There is a potentially interesting paper by Cluu listed in the cittations in that last paper Cluff LE. Delayed convalescence from influenza: its prediction and implications. Clin Ther 1979;2:98-10 I have been unable to find it. One can see the major area of concern to Cluff from this...