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    UK - NICE guideline on Long Covid

    Don't be unkind to the man. All he ever wanted to do was to treat illness behaviour. How could he be expected to deal with effects of disease?
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    The biology of coronavirus COVID-19 - including research and treatments

    You have to evaluate the secondary gain involved.
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    BPS attempts at psychologizing Long Covid

    How could Grinker say anyhing else? He received his degree in anthropology in 1989 (EDIT from Harvard). Presumably he must have been instructed by Kleinman. There are traditions to be maintained.
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    BMJ editorial: Updated NICE Guideline on chronic fatigue syndrome, 2020, Stokes and Wade

    the update cites a “lack of evidence for the effectiveness of these interventions” despite the overall positive results of randomised evidence published since 2007.345 Since when has randomisation of evidence played a part in evaluation in scientific discourse? Perhaps the authors of the...
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    News about Long Covid including its relationship to ME/CFS 2020 to 2021

    How could they know that long-covid could last a lifetime if they are not saying it is ananlagous to, or the same, as ME? Expertise by experience could only show them that it lasts up to about a year.
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    BMJ editorial: Updated NICE Guideline on chronic fatigue syndrome, 2020, Stokes and Wade

    It never seemed to bother them that CFS was a heterogeneous condition when the recommended treatment was CBT and GET.
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    News about Long Covid including its relationship to ME/CFS 2020 to 2021

    I am not sure whether this is the best thread for this post but as it addresses issues arising from early ME it might be. The question of exercise in the early stages has long been a point of contention. It was argued that we exercised and it did not help. We thought this was ignored by those...
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    Illness Behaviour - a multidisciplinary approach McHugh and Vallis (EDIT)1986

    I agree that there is some importance in this. It cuts off lines of retreat and should leave no position to which to fall back. I think it helps to show that the problem is much wider than thought and how subjects may be related. It does puzzle me that I don't recall any connection being made...
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    Finland: Helsinki University Hospital’s Outpatient Clinic for Functional Disorders treats ME/CFS patients

    I was going to say that they need to pour cold water on this idea,and then beat it with sticks, but they might think it a sign of approval.
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    The "chronic brucellosis" papers.

    IT is interesting to see that the idea expressed by Ziegler, Imboden and Meyer and described by them as a "conversion reaction", alleged to occur in patients with chronic brucellosis, and thus, probably, by extension ME, provided protection for self esteem and alleviation of guilt turned up in...
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    Finland: Helsinki University Hospital’s Outpatient Clinic for Functional Disorders treats ME/CFS patients

    Oh, goody. It seems to work for everything. Thanks @adambeyoncelowe . I now see that @dave30th is ahead of the game as usual Trial By Error: What Is the Dynamic Neural Retraining System? (virology.ws)
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    Finland: Helsinki University Hospital’s Outpatient Clinic for Functional Disorders treats ME/CFS patients

    Anyone know what DNRS stands for in this context? Is the "Head Physician" a psychiatrist?
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    Illness Behaviour - a multidisciplinary approach McHugh and Vallis (EDIT)1986

    @Esther12 thanks for that link. It is most informative, but rather depressing. I'm sure that there will be a treatment for that. What I find significant is the suslicion that much of this can be traced through Shepherd. I am sure that he said that a major influence on him was Gilbert Ryle. It...
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    News about Long Covid including its relationship to ME/CFS 2020 to 2021

    It was obvious to Ramsey; sadly not to those who came after him.
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    Paul Garner on Long Covid and ME/CFS - BMJ articles and other media.

    It all makes one wonder what it was that happened in the childhood, and general family experience, of those therapists, psychologists and psychiatrists which led them to hold such views.
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    Opinion piece: "Am I disabled?" by Joanne Limburg

    Are you entirely sure that it is the ability to read a weather forecast that is in question?
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    Michael Sharpe: Mind, Medicine and Morals: A Tale of Two Illnesses (2019) BMJ blog - and published responses

    But Robbins and Kirmayer ended up saying, "With more precise definitions of patient presentation, such measurement procedures may permit detailed study of the cognitive contributions to somatisation and psychologisation". It maybe that we are not sufficiently familiar with Karl Jasper's...
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