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My appreciation to @dave30th & Betsy Ladyzhets!

Such an interesting thread thanks @Mij and everyone above!

Thanks @Lou B Lou I wonder if ASA have informal guidelines on how many times they warn and are ignored before they escalate to Trading Standards involvement. Or if ASA decide when to refer based on how serious they judge the consequences of the misleading claims to be?

Is this treatment going to be safe or cause lasting damage?

I there anything ASA can now do? Or still no?

Yes. My understanding going by what I have so far observed is that somewhere between a metaphorical 99.9.9% being optimistic and 100% being realistic, of all dietary programs and interventions claiming to be individualised or personalised or tailored are in fact, either virtually or totally not...

Yeah, I remember telling the pharmacist that these decongestants used to work for me but now didn’t and they said “you want the good stuff which you have to ask us for.” The packaging was virtually identical so many were caught out. Then this pharmacy gave me a massive quiz about my health and...

I prefer pseudoephedrine for that. It works head pressure lifts, aches and pains vanished. But then a bit later feel like I’m having a heart attack. So…

Bastian, I think needed to step down and be replaced near the beginning if she found herself unable to undertake the work in a timely fashion and with due consideration of the consequences of not doing do. If she was the victim of circumstances outside her control, this would be the logical and...

Okay, so it turns out I didn’t remember what this Zoe testing thing was all about. Having read all your replies, thank you people, it has all come flooding back to me, re my dislike of the man. Back when he was pushing this product hard all over the media I had decided I didn’t ever want to do...

Yeah. To clarify I was talking about capitalism rather then this particular company.

Its terrible. What an awful system, when a man bringing nutrition to others can’t feed himself on veggies like this.

Yes it is him. Later he was also doing work on Covid with Indy Sage.

Yeah has been my experience. I find this heartbreaking. I think some maybe most non- disability-political people who are themselves disabled are following the medical professionals lead as to what precautions they should take. So feel safer than they are, along with older people. Or maybe...

Yeah you’re right. One reason I am not keen on Spector is his very middle class framing of all this stuff. Considering the challenges I had an amazing diet before LC ME combo totally ruined it . Really ruined it. It’s not that I don’t crave variety or nutrition and, I do eat organic foods and...

Good point. I think they absolutely do try to FND migraines, but usually it’s far down the list and I bet you’re right about why that is! Ill look into it as soon as I have a little mental energy, see if I can sell it to my GPs although I may have to leave them soon due to their attitudes ME...

Bad. So bad.

I wondered about this. I am all for a better microbiome. I’m also really run down had to take loads of antibiotics since Covid cause keep getting minor infections. A family member suggested this to me. What is holding me back is that I really don’t like the Zoe guy. But I can’t remember details...

Also a mirror of how society is about COVID/LC, she didn’t want it to be true so when possible poisoning symptoms began she didn’t take steps address the possibility when it might have been possible to find evidence and get most effective treatment. Though I don’t think you could run into a war...

OMG, bring it on!