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What does that mean? Edit: Physiotherapists are allowed as assessors and to end sick leave?!

Even that seems to be too difficult for DEGAM - writing a proper report. Degam should correct that. Do you know if "Lost Voices Stiftung" will contact Degam?

Ah, I didn't know. Do you have more information about that?

@Valentijn, do you mean a campaign against psycho stuff, or an awareness campaign about ME and its biomedical background. Sometimes I think people with ME in Germany really believe they have a psychosomatic ("functional") disorder, and that they like the psychological treatments. Some simply...

Respect, @TiredSam, for your decision regarding fatigatio, especially taking into account that you go to self help groups regularly. Can you tell what people there say about the situation in Germany?

Yes, there is no resistance. You can call yourself happy to be in a position to hide from the Inquisition. The best you can do! (And actually, that's what they count on: to construct social aid so painful that people choose living on the street over it, but at the same time to boast of the...

Thanks, @Sly Saint, for your suggestions. I don't want to be pessimistic, but writing to politicians haven't helped in the past. Many people did that. There's no interest at all.

Yes! So, let's take what we have and try to make the best of it. You won't get the majority of the Germans - even not with BIG topics - it's not their mentality. It seems we will need help from the outside.

Oh, I so feel like you, @Joh. One reason why I don't do any upvotes or comments is I don't want to register. I like as much data privacy as possible. Second, it seems I don't have too much to say. I watched the Unrest trailer, and I still wait for the DVD. But to be honest I don't know whether...

I'm not on Facebook, still thanks!

I so much wish such things would happen in Germany. For me, it was moving to see all that signatures. Thanks to all who contributed!

Oh, seems so. 16% and 19%, yes? Are there reasons given? What is "protocol-driven" and "on demand"? Does protocol-driven mean: Click according to a plan; and on-demand: whenever you feel like it? - Ah, yes.

It's important to filter out people who think and fight for themselves - which is one mission of psychiatry. Furthermore, people who are involved in legal disability cases probably know they have a physical illness, and that CBT is useless. It's harder to convince them of the efficacy of CBT...

At the Charité I was also told that the situation was even better in Estonia and Latvia (I have not checked that statement). :arghh:

It shows that a shorter speaking time is as uneffective as a longer speaking time, but much cheaper. So you need less money to bring people to say "Everything's fine" and stop "complaining" although they feel shitty and cannot earn money.

Thanks all for your work!

There is still a law (in theory I confess). The authorities have very much power, something I experience, too, but they can't allow to act too obviously against it. Companies and governments can do that. In law, again theoretically, each party has the right to speak and to be heard. If that was...

Very interesting post, @Nina, and welcome to the forum! Yes. Unfortunately, my only idea is the legal stuff, which is only an idea. That is what I was told. Maybe from a medical law point of view nothing can be done. I don't know. Still, I feel something should be possible. Your right of free...

Yes. For this a lawyer's advice would be practical. I am not an expert. I have two options. Is there an interest? Afterwards we could have concrete projects. I think about that, and think, and think...I don't know. I have no connections.

Yes, that was my decision, too.