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I don't understand something: Why are negative thoughts linked to "anti-psychiatry"? The organizations I know of don't work for the abolotion of psychiatry, they want the abolition of forced psychiatry that uses means of torture to break people and which functions as a kind of "vassal" for...

Just cruel: I think this shows the kernel of psychiatry as an institution. Wouldn't it be great if this was replaced by understanding, empathy and a certain amount of love, people/therapists who really want to help people with their issues in life (that may have different origins)?

I totally agree with you, @alktipping. I simply don't know what we can do, only combine our strengths and say out loud what's going on. So many people seem to want to stick to the concept of "mental illness" which I can perfectly understand. I hear people say that they are afraid of "strange...

Hi @NelliePledge, so you are not so positive about Pregablin, too. Thank you so much for sharing your experience! 150mg for neuropathic pain is pretty high, isn't it? My GP told me it's unisono that 25-50mg are used, but there are certainly country differences. I think it is a good...

I can just speak from my own impression and experience in my family. Here I see it as progressive. But I am not sure there is any research about that. Does anybody have at hand the Michael Sharpe quote where he says PACE was not supposed to focus on ME/CFS but on chronic fatigue (which has an F...

This seems sad to me:

Thanks for pointing to this article. That's something I experienced, too, and therefore I can relate to it:

Thomas Szasz was a psychiatrist himself who wrote at the beginning excellent works about "his field". He himself, as I understood correctly, didn't view himself as an anti-psychiatrist. He "only" pointed out what psychiatry is - its history and its present. He, as others of his profession, like...

Fake science, real harm. I do want to avoid the real harm part. Therefore, one needs to understand their reasoning. If it leads to a circular reasoning on their side - perfect! To show that could be powerful I think. But I don't get that close. (Like in the DSM V definition of "psychological...

@strategist @Jonathan Edwards @adambeyoncelowe I am not getting something here...but I have the feeling it might be important. Is there some kind of circular reasoning in the CBT/GET defenders? I simply cannot process it :bawling: but I am close to it.

May I ask if I'm allowed to cite you where appropriate? I like "brainwashing". :D (By the way, that's what it exactly is.) But if I say it it's nonsense brabble by a crazy woman.

Absolutely right! What you say can be well used. Good argumentation in my view!

For completeness, do you have something at hand, a link? I think taking everything that we have one could build a good argument against agencies, doctors, judges etc. who want to put people with ME into the psychosomatic/depressed corner.

In the context of social law and criminal law, for instance, where psychiatric assessments - depending on the case - are almost normal. In the context of disability pensions, assessing the psychological aspects - either as a "plus" to physical diseases or alone to show that the underlying...

But it is very indicative: If a treatment doesn't help, the claimed underlying process is (most probably) not correct. I shall use this argument nonetheless.

Well, I totally agree. There is no science. But people in positions with certain power over people (like assessors) see that differently; and I'd say judges, too. And as a non-active researcher or non-scientist, those people give a damn about your statement. Even when speaking with family and...

"Psychosomatic" explains everything :D really, that's how they use it (at least in my experience). I cannot tell where psychosomatic starts and ends, but I am sure "they" can. They will find a reasonably sounding explanation for you getting pallid, e.g. fear in your subconscious of over-doing...

Thank you @adambeyoncelowe and @Invisible Woman! Malic acid - this has nothing got to do with "apple acid" (vinegar stuff)?

Rethinking your post...So could the way be something like the following: The cause of ME is still unknown. Biomedical findings strongly suggest there is a physical cause, but also psychological reasons were widely investigated. The PACE was viewed as "golden standard" amongst psychological...

It'a not off-topic in my view, but very helpful. And you say it absolutely correctly, only that in Germany we're still at the "it's all in your head" level, most of the times. I am collecting good arguments to counter that, either via biomedical research or via PACE or via whatever is reasonable.