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Why would spending a lot of time horizontal affect what happens in terms of blood pooling when standing up, apart from the initial adjustment needed if you get up too quickly?

Not any that have made their presence public, I think. Edit: I mean I'm not aware of any, public or privately.

Charity number: 1193035, registered in the UK. https://bacme.info/

That's good. So which charity are they talking about?

Fantastic, thank you so much, @PhysiosforME

That was my worry too. There does seem to be something going badly wrong with the MEA.

Are you aware of or in touch with people researching the Visible app that uses HR and HRV monitoring as well as symptoms and FUNCAP? I'm not up to date with what they are doing, but I understand Visible provides a morning score for the coming day based on data.

Anything from the MEA on this? There should be someone official explaining to the producers how harmful this is.

Thanks for the replies. Your work on all this looks important. Are you planning to publish anything soon about your plans for a package of tracking and outcome measures for ME/CFS? This work looks really useful, especially as you will be testing it on patients along with biological testing.

You could also link them to this thread.

In situations like this, I think far better to provide links to people with expertise rather than risking getting facts wrong.

Opinion: ‘You don’t want to get better’: the outdated treatment of ME/CFS patients is a national scandal - George Monbiot

There have been some newspaper articles about bad treatment in hospitals. Also suggest they contact Dr Charles Shepherd and Dr Nigel Speight at the MEA. See this thread: Maeve Boothby O'Neill - articles about her life, death and inquest David Tuller has written about Maeve and the wider...

@MelbME, are you planning to use any cognitive testing as part of your outcome assessments?

@sarahtyson, in the hope that you are continuing to read and take notice of comments on this thread, I would like to draw the attention of your team to this discussion of a team in Australia working on clinical trials and at the same time developing what looks to me like a very good set of tools...

I'm liking very much your development of ways to track changes and potential for use as outcome measures. I like the mix of the three aspects, FUNCAP, wearable activity tracker and personalised symptom tracking. Is your app for symptom tracking available for others to use? On FUNCAP, I don't...

That is extremely concerning. I can't imagine the MEA, AfME or MEAction being so stupid. Even if they can find a member with ME/CFS who can run, the message it sends to the audience is so harmful. I hope someone has contacted these ME organisations and asked them to contact the organisers and...

Thanks, so the chair says 'a number of comments in the chat saying they were finding wearables 'incredibly unreliable, not recordiing accurately what they were doing, things like that.' So not lots of people, just 'a number of people' and the chair's quick glance through a few people responding...

That was Sarah Tyson as part of her talk commenting about how unreliable some individuals find wearables, presumably from a few people she's spoken to. I don't recall the audience making any such comments. Can you point to it?

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