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Trial By Error: Some Thoughts on IBS, CFS, MUS, PACE, ACTIB and IAPT (Whew!)

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Andy, Feb 13, 2020.

  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member & Outreach

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    http://www.virology.ws/2020/02/13/t...ghts-on-ibs-cfs-mus-pace-actib-and-iapt-whew/
     
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    surprised that KG and Scott got this wrong. doesn't look good.

    http://www.virology.ws/2020/02/13/t...ghts-on-ibs-cfs-mus-pace-actib-and-iapt-whew/
     
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    Shame they’ve had to make that correction. Presumably the measure of fatigue used by MUs is Chalder Cosmo Quiz.
     
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    Well no,it's worse than that. Davids only had to delete a couple of paragraphs, but the Geraghty /Scott paper is full of statements on the same theme

    see the para on
    IAPT early performance data and recovery measurement
    (https://bmcpsychology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40359-020-0380-2 )


    the inaccuracy re IAPT implementation guidance (see link in above post) appears to undermine a lot of their arguments, (even though the guidance might not be what is happening in practice).
     
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    So, as @NelliePledge says, the fatigue measure must the Chalder Fatigue Questionnaire noted in Table 6 on page 30. I don't see any other relevant reference to 'fatigue'. Unfortunately, though a useless measure of ME/CFS fatigue in many ways, it does show they measure it, so the KG and Scott article looks to have missed that. Rather a pity.
     

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