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The Jackson Laboratory - Solving the mystery of chronic fatigue syndrome

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS news' started by Kalliope, Feb 26, 2019.

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  1. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Solving the mystery of chronic fatigue syndrome

    For decades, no one has known what causes myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME, commonly called ME/CFS). As a result, this debilitating disease has been very difficult to diagnose and even harder to treat. Now a collaborative JAX research center led by Derya Unutmaz, M.D., is diving deep into the biology of ME/CFS patients to find a root cause, which may lie in their own immune systems. If successful, the work will provide patients with clear diagnoses and effective therapies.
     
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    Worth a read - not much in the way of scientific content, but the good understanding of the impact of the illness and hence the urgent need for a biomarker, as well as the well-founded confidence that this team seem to have, is encouraging.
     
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  5. Sisyphus

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    All of the "We found X about MECFS" state this as if there is one such disease. But it seems be in part a diagnosis, including such factors and PEM, and part dead-end file for "stuff we can't diagnose". Thus, I think any assumption that we all have the same disease is ill-founded. It would be nice if so, our situation is much simpler if we all have a single disease or several that are all fingers of one hand. Nature isn't nice, so I'm increasingly betting we don't.
     
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    I suspect you may well be right. But I also suspect that if similar situations were looked at throughout history, the discoveries that paved the way for better understanding this, may well have been initially falsely premised on there being a single common illness. So I still see such work as very heartening.
     
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    How many other conditions have PEM, where day after is typically worse than day of, with day 3 showing further decline in the full condition? Complication is that there are vague definitions of 'exertion'. For me, attempting to do normal activities without breaks lying flat in a quiet spot is much worse than using a stationary bike for a brief period. The latter is the worst way to simulate PEM I can think of, yet researchers have placed it first.
    I agree that however research gets started it's far better than the past 30 years of "oh, you mean it's about those malingering whiners".
     
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    Dr Chu's paper where she found that people with ME had inflammatory responses to exertion was important. My first sign I have overdone things is a sore throat and swollen glands. This is not what happens in MS or RA where they become fatigued after overexertion.

    The CPET findings give a scientific grounding to what we experience but the important point for PEM is that we do not recover the way other illnesses do.

    So our PEM goes beyond post exertional fatigue but includes unique characteristics, is often delayed and is prolonged.

    That does not seem so very hard to understand, but the medical profession is still hung up on the stupid idea we have an illness of fatigue thanks to CFS, whereas we have a complex multisystem disease.
     
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    "My first sign I have overdone things is a sore throat and swollen glands."
    We're a motley group. I've never had that after doing overdoing thing. I do get various other fun effects.

    "stupid idea we have an illness of fatigue thanks to CFS"
    The KGB could not have come up with a better diversionary misnaming. Bravo to whomever invented "CFS", they'll reach the Inner Master Level in Dante's hierarchy.
     

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