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Fiona Fox (SMC) blog: "don’t be complacent about the gains we have made"

Discussion in 'Health News and Research unrelated to ME/CFS' started by Andy, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member & Outreach

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    http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/dont-be-complacent-about-the-gains-we-have-made/

    Also includes at the end
     
  2. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Thank God they never offered me fellowship.

    The irony of the final quote says it all.

    The rest is drivel. Maybe this club should ask themselves why advances in medical science have largely ground to a halt in the last twenty years - as pointed out by James LeFanu in the Rise and Fall of Modern Medicine.
     
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    chrisb Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    But think of the fun which could have been had by resigning.
     
  4. JohnTheJack

    JohnTheJack Moderator Staff Member

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    This is fantastic. She is utterly shameless.

    By the way everyone, did you know I have an OBE as well?

    It is so ignorant as well. She shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what knowledge is.
     
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    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    Bah humbug.
     
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    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Talks the talk doesn't she :rolleyes:.
    Doesn't it just.
     
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    I. What?
     
  12. Suffolkres

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    Am sitting here with my jaws dropped....... The audacity, arrogance and superciliousness of the woman! No wonder we have a problem with the SMC!
    I feel for poor Carol!


    Mentions ME and claims it is caused by a virus...
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/academy/en/articles/art20130702112133756

    "Science and the media: Fiona Fox (and the Holy Grail of journalistic balance ......words of wisdom during the BBC interview)

    If you aren’t a specialist in a particular area, there’ll always be a lot of people who know more about a subject than you do..... (right on comrade F!)
    Fiona Fox is chief executive of the Science Media Centre which provides advice and support to scientists and journalists.

    And, quote from talking to the Lancet, Ha! (my emphasis)
    "The SMC offers media training for scientists, including meet the media days where they come face-to-face with UK national journalists in an informal setting. Fox and her colleagues also provide expert comment on just about any science or health subject. “There are far less journalists nowadays, but with much more space to fill. By providing them with expert comment, we are giving it to them on a plate—but what they are getting is fair, balanced, journalism”, says Fox........ (Oh no she isn't!)
     
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    I think this may be a sign of the end of civilisation as we know it.

    A journalist who doesn't distinguish between "less" and "fewer".

    That is guaranteed to upset the residents of Tunbridge Wells.
     
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    Centuries of science have made that point extremely clear: eminence is a lousy system to determine what is true and what isn't and objective science, one that painstakingly acknowledges biases and works hard to reduce their influence on outcome, is the only process that yields useful outcome over the long term. Reality is just not intuitive, you have to seriously poke at it to get the juicy bits of truth out.

    And she's proud of rejecting those painful lessons and embracing argument by eminence. Disgraceful. Explains a lot, though. Quite fitting that this is a movement promoting what is essentially a rejection of the germ theory of disease as the foundation of modern medicine, another painfully learned lesson that took centuries to perfect.

    [Edit: no politics :p]
     
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    I think it means some amongst them must be aware of his criticisms, and that final comment just validates what @Brian Hughes says, though I doubt that speaker had the slightest awareness of his doing that.
     
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    Beat me to it.

    I shall retire to my sofa with a glass of sherry.
     
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