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Charities are missing the point – disability benefit assessments were designed to fail

Discussion in 'Work, Finances and Disability Insurance' started by Andy, Jul 7, 2018.

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  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member (& Outreach when energy allows)

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    https://welfareweekly.com/charities-are-missing-the-point-benefit-assessments-were-designed-to-fail/
     
    Andy, Jul 7, 2018
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    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I agree that the major UK disability charities often seem to misunderstand some of the ideological aspect to some of the recent disability cuts, but I wonder if Stewart is a bit too strong in the opposite way here, downplaying the desire for cost-cutting and over-emphasising the corrupting influence of the insurance industry. To me, it seems likely that the insurance industry has been able to influence government policy largely because their interests tie so neatly with a desire to cut spending.
     
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    alktipping Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I think we have known this for years .the british governments have been using these assessments to simply beat the long term sick and disabled into no longer applying for benefits if they have any other possible support system . they are continually trying to abnegate any social responsibilities after all m thatcher said what many tories believe that there is no such thing as society the thatcher Reagan policies of I am alright jack sod everyone else are very much alive and rushing civilisation to the gutter .
     
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    Sean Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Feature, not a bug.

    The cruel and arbitrary nature of it is a deliberate signal to the rest of society that this could happen to them if they don't submit.

    Exactly the same is happening here in Australia. Government by extortion and intimidation and neglect.

    All in our best interests, of course.
     
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    Modern day equivalent of the workhouse. Superficially it gives “normal” Society - aka Middle England comfort that some form of safety net exists. In reality it is to make things as hard as possible to access and stay in and scare the shit out of ordinary people so they only use it when desperate.

    My Grandad said the old folks he knew used to call the local workhouse the Bastile
     
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    It's M.E. Linda Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    7 PwME met MP last week to discuss what he can do to support us.

    All had experienced problems with obtaining benefits which none of us had ever expected to need.

    All, except one, had been working full time when struck by ME (I include a full time child ‘working’ at school in that). So previously, all tax and NI paying members of society, who never thought they were going to need to rely on state assistance.
     
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    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Most of this article seems to be taken from here (by Mo Stewart):
    https://www.researchgate.net/public...table_harm_and_the_Work_Capability_Assessment

    see also https://www.s4me.info/threads/government-and-insurance-companies-establishing-the-bps-model.2319/

    also:
    Blaming the victim, all over again: Waddell and Aylward’s biopsychosocial (BPS) model of disability
    http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0261018316649120
     
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