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Discussion in 'Treating the Microbiome' started by InitialConditions, Jul 17, 2019.

  1. InitialConditions

    InitialConditions Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Have recently started a course of Symprove. I have a three-month supply. I'm on day 6 and I have felt very washed out this week - the fatigue has been quite brutal and has been present throughout most days.

    I need to stick with it because I have no firm evidence that I'm not just going through a 'crashy' period, and because I've paid decent money for the three-month supply.

    Anyone like to share their experience of a course of probiotics, particularly stuff like Symprove?
     
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    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    maybe try reducing the doseage?
    article in the standard on Symprove here

    https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyl...tic-for-gut-health-does-it-work-a4126586.html

    the writer attributes improvements to the probiotic but says

    "I replaced my can a day [coke]with cups and cups of green tea, I started making healthier lunch choices, and I had more vegetarian evening meals."

    I have done courses of probiotics in the past (usually Healthspan) whenever I have been prescribed antibiotics, as well as phases of Kefir and other similar foodstuffs. I have greek yoghourt fairly regularly.
    NB I'm a lacto-vegetarian.
     
  3. Hopeful1976

    Hopeful1976 Established Member

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    I had a very bad experience with symprove. Initially felt like you, then I improved after about 3 weeks, then I started getting scary neurological symptoms (depersonalisation/ intense anxiety ect) after about 3 months. We are all different, but I would never recommend this (it contains enteroccus bacteria which is known high in m.e. I'll try to find the studies and post). It was a very scary experience.
     
  4. InitialConditions

    InitialConditions Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    oh no. sorry to hear this. do you think the neuro symptoms were from Symprove or could they be from other factors? this doesn't fill me with much hope!
     
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  5. DokaGirl

    DokaGirl Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    @InitialConditions

    Sorry to hear you're feeling worse. I don't know anything about Symprove. But, I have used other probiotics for many years.

    Some alternative practitioners might say your symptom increase is from die off of the bad bacteria. I have read this, and been told that by a naturopathic doctor, who sold me a candida eliminating product.
    (I know we can't kill off all our candida, and have even read doing so would be very detrimental). However, I digress.

    I have never felt worse from just straight forward probiotics. Years ago, I followed the advice of health food store clerks who told me I just need to take a probiotic till I'm over the yeast infection, or after antibiotics - so a temporary measure. I use them everyday now, as they help with GI problems and brain fog.

    There are a number of types of probiotics around - even some from human sources, processed by reputable firms, and sold in
    regular health food stores.

    Sorry I can't really add anything that might
    help. I hope you can sort out if it's the product bothering you. Best wishes.
     
  6. TigerLilea

    TigerLilea Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    You shouldn't use the same probiotic continuously. They should be changed up every week or two between a few others and then keep rotating them.
     
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    It's M.E. Linda Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I started using a probiotic (Natures AID pro-30 MAX, 30 Billion Live Bacteria, Daily, Super Strength) in 2014 having contracted Sepsis in 2013 and having many oral and i/v antibiotics. This particular product was recommended by the manager of a local Nutrition Centre (been in town for 30 years). I explained my circumstances to them. Anybody should check with their GP/medical advisor first.

    About 9 month’s ago I read that you are supposed to take a break from them, which panicked me a bit as I had been on them solidly (with no issues whatsoever). As I had a Biobank appt fixed I didn’t want to amend my medications prior to samples being taken, so waited until after the appt to have a break. Everything was fine in the first four weeks, but by week six I had thrush. Coincidence, quite possibly, but I had not suffered this at all in the previous 4 years. Treated the thrush, started back on the probiotics.

    I now have a break of about 2 weeks every so often. Still no problems for me.
     
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  8. DokaGirl

    DokaGirl Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    @InitialConditions

    I want to add, I don't know if the die off effect is really what is happening, or is even a true, or correct concept for sure. And, I was told this when feeling much worse from a candida elimination formula, not probiotics.
     
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  9. InitialConditions

    InitialConditions Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    This is the same as all that herx stuff everyone always puts a worsening of symptoms down to. probability is the person is just going through a rough patch!
     
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    Probiotics took me from an 8 to a 4-5 activity scale. On the other hand, they have been very helpful to a lot of people.

    I would suggest caution.
     
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  11. Hopeful1976

    Hopeful1976 Established Member

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    Was defo from the symprove
     
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