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  1. Diane O'Leary
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    Updates on status of ICD-11 and changes to other classification and terminology systems

    Ok, I understand your point. And you're right - if the core BSS construct is the same as Fink BDS, then it's a bad idea to accept it. I think...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Sep 1, 2019 in forum: General ME/CFS News
  2. Diane O'Leary
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    Updates on status of ICD-11 and changes to other classification and terminology systems

    I don’t think Rosendal’s picture is objective. She has a strong investment in characterizing things in a way that’s favorable to BDS. And there is...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Sep 1, 2019 in forum: General ME/CFS News
  3. Diane O'Leary
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    Updates on status of ICD-11 and changes to other classification and terminology systems

    The core construct of BSS is essentially the same as BDD. Then BDS criteria are considered separately, as an potential addition. WHO studies...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Sep 1, 2019 in forum: General ME/CFS News
  4. Diane O'Leary
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    Updates on status of ICD-11 and changes to other classification and terminology systems

    Thanks for the clarification. (That Creed lecture by Fink is a monstrosity!) Yes, ICD-11-PHC is basically a primary care mental health manual, but...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Sep 1, 2019 in forum: General ME/CFS News
  5. Diane O'Leary
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    Updates on status of ICD-11 and changes to other classification and terminology systems

    Did you see my proposal to reject BDD? Yes of course I agree that we should advocate against anything that’s unproductive for the chronically ill...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Sep 1, 2019 in forum: General ME/CFS News
  6. Diane O'Leary
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    Updates on status of ICD-11 and changes to other classification and terminology systems

    I understand, Suzy, though I hope you know I played no role in those actions. I continue to be grateful for your work, which has taught me so much.
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Sep 1, 2019 in forum: General ME/CFS News
  7. Diane O'Leary
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    Updates on status of ICD-11 and changes to other classification and terminology systems

    Oh I do want to say that your work pointing out White’s errors is just marvelous, Suzy. Thanks for exposing those confusions!
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Sep 1, 2019 in forum: General ME/CFS News
  8. Diane O'Leary
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    Updates on status of ICD-11 and changes to other classification and terminology systems

    I’m not sure I’m understanding your point Suzy. At the time that info sheet was written, BDD was going to be implemented, so there was little...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Sep 1, 2019 in forum: General ME/CFS News
  9. Diane O'Leary
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    Updates on status of ICD-11 and changes to other classification and terminology systems

    Here’s a link to my proposal to reject BDD. https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/23f4ba_9301dfea693f4df190b656a48886cbcd.pdf
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Sep 1, 2019 in forum: General ME/CFS News
  10. Diane O'Leary
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    Updates on status of ICD-11 and changes to other classification and terminology systems

    Yes, I completely agree that BDD is a terrible construct. I’ve written a proposal to reject it that has now been escalated to the medical sciences...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Sep 1, 2019 in forum: General ME/CFS News
  11. Diane O'Leary
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    Updates on status of ICD-11 and changes to other classification and terminology systems

    What I’m saying is that while BDS criteria specifically target ME, BDD criteria do not. So if the UK recognizes ME as a biological disease - and I...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Sep 1, 2019 in forum: General ME/CFS News
  12. Diane O'Leary
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    Is it true that more than half of medical consultations are for MUS? A look at the evidence.

    I have asked you many times why you believe doctors do get it right most of the time. Can you answer that question, with evidence? First, your...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Mar 14, 2019 in forum: General Advocacy Discussions
  13. Diane O'Leary
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    Is it true that more than half of medical consultations are for MUS? A look at the evidence.

    Can I ask what conclusion you think we might draw from this? For example, do the authors understand MUS consistently - or do they shift (as most...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Mar 13, 2019 in forum: General Advocacy Discussions
  14. Diane O'Leary
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    Is it true that more than half of medical consultations are for MUS? A look at the evidence.

    I'm still having a lot of trouble understanding that. Most of the time when people talk about MUS they mean as the BPS camp sees MUS - i.e....
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Mar 13, 2019 in forum: General Advocacy Discussions
  15. Diane O'Leary
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    Is it true that more than half of medical consultations are for MUS? A look at the evidence.

    Lots of great questions and insights here. * Up to Date summarizes current consensus on every medical condition in a way that's useful right...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Mar 13, 2019 in forum: General Advocacy Discussions
  16. Diane O'Leary
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    Is it true that more than half of medical consultations are for MUS? A look at the evidence.

    I sure appreciate your diligence and your clarity, Trish. I think it's important that the 50% figure does not directly support the Wessely...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Mar 13, 2019 in forum: General Advocacy Discussions
  17. Diane O'Leary
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    Is it true that more than half of medical consultations are for MUS? A look at the evidence.

    That's just not tenable. There is far, far too much research to support it, and this research is global. The Up To Date system, for example, is...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Mar 13, 2019 in forum: General Advocacy Discussions
  18. Diane O'Leary
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    Is it true that more than half of medical consultations are for MUS? A look at the evidence.

    The paper's arguments do not depend on the 50% figure - that's not accurate. I suppose it will feel more or less important as a problem depending...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Mar 13, 2019 in forum: General Advocacy Discussions
  19. Diane O'Leary
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    Is it true that more than half of medical consultations are for MUS? A look at the evidence.

    I mean, genuinely, that the people on s4me are good, well meaning people. You're also highly intelligent, articulate and very well informed.
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Mar 12, 2019 in forum: General Advocacy Discussions
  20. Diane O'Leary
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    Is it true that more than half of medical consultations are for MUS? A look at the evidence.

    I have to go to work now, but quickly - you are so right that there's conflation of proportion of symptoms and proportion of patients. And you're...
    Post by: Diane O'Leary, Mar 12, 2019 in forum: General Advocacy Discussions
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