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Dr Myhill’s complaint to GMC about PACE authors.

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS news' started by Robert 1973, Jan 15, 2018.

  1. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Excellent. Small steps, but vital in paving the way.
     
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  2. MEMarge

    MEMarge Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Wow!
     
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  3. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    To be fair, any such evidence would be devastating to their case. It always is with this lot.
     
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  4. Barry

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    What's the betting the 'evidence' turns out to be opinionated pieces by the authors themselves. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  5. JemPD

    JemPD Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    haha i reckon that's exactly what it will be... & I cant wait to see them try to defend it :D
     
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  6. Wonko

    Wonko Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Obviously they will call in experts, to provide expert opinion to do so.

    Imagine the savings in both time and money when they decide that the only experts with the relevant expertise are themselves.

    This would appear to be the way that they do things so why would this case be any different?
     
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  7. Seven

    Seven Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    What does this means? Sorry not sure if it is my English.
     
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  8. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    I take it to mean that the GMC has been told to produce the written evidence showing why they didn't investigate the PACE authors.

    If they can't show with written evidence that there was a correct procedure followed, then Myhill will take the GMC to court for not carrying out a proper investigation.
     
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    chrisb Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    It would be the "decision not to investigate" which would be taken to court for review. Had they decided to investigate there would have been no need.The language, is at first sight, somewhat confusing.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if 'they' pointed to the HRA report and said it had already been investigated and found to be all above board.
     
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  12. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I had to read it twice myself @Seven, because the wording can at first glance seem ambiguous.

    I've reworded slightly from ...

    "If there is no evidence base, then I will take the decision not to investigate the PACE authors to the High Court for a Judicial Review."

    ... to ...

    "If there is no evidence base, then I will take the [GMC's] decision (to not investigate the PACE authors) to the High Court for a Judicial Review."

    Hope that helps a bit.
     
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  14. Patient4Life

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    WOW!
     
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  15. Eagles

    Eagles Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Merged thread

    Dr Sarah Myhill: Update on Dr Myhill's complaint to the GMC about the PACE authors

    https://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/My_Complaint_to_the_GMC_about_the_PACE_authors

    20 JANUARY 2020 UPDATE AND SUMMARY OF EVENTS SO FAR
    • I complained about the PACE authors to the GMC
    • After much time passing, the GMC issued a decision notice stating that it was not going to investigate the PACE authors
    • I made a Freedom of Information Act data request, requiring that the GMC release their reasons for not investigating the PACE authors
    • The GMC replied with a short opinion-based document, with no evidence base
    • I made a second Freedom of Information Act data request, requiring that the GMC either release the evidence base for their decision or admit that no evidence base actually existed
    • The GMC replied and stated that they considered that they had complied with this second Freedom of Information Act data request within the document supplied as above
    • I wrote to the Information Commissioner’s Office asking that they review the GMC’s insistence that it had complied with my second data request
    • On 1 October, [see below] the ICO upheld my point of law and put a Decision Notice on the GMC requiring that they either release the evidence base for their decision not to investigate the GMC or that they state that there is no such evidence base.
    • The GMC appealed against the above ICO Decision Notice to force such disclosure
    • In a turnaround of logic, the ICO accepted this GMC appeal
    • I appealed against the ICO decision to accept the GMC’s appeal against the original Decision Notice
    • The ICO has accepted my appeal against their decision as noted directly above
    • I will appear in person at a Hearing [Myhill versus ICO]. I will update you on when and where this will take place.
     
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  16. Amw66

    Amw66 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    interesting - I admire Dr Myhill's perseverance.
     
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    If this was a sporting event it would go like this:

    Sarah Myhill (Roger Federer)

    Versus

    Pace team - (Russian Athletic Doping agency)


    GMC Line judge - (Lance Armstrong)
    ICO Umpire - (Sepp Blatter)
     
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    I've not been following these efforts. What is the hoped for outcome with all of this?
     
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    As I understand it, she is hoping that the GMC will investigate the PACE authors, re their flawed research.

    Sadly the number of MPs supporting her actions has reduced significantly since the election.
     
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