In a properly chaired scientific debate - which is why I specifically said that - EC would would not have been able to do to DT what she did. The audience would not have been allowed to shout him down, nor EC have been able to rally them to her side. There would have been no bouncers to usher him out the building for no good reason. EC would have had to do what she fears most I suspect - debate real science on a level playing field. I'm not talking about what the media likes to pass off as debates, but the real thing.