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Esther Crawley talk at TEDxBristol, Thurs 2nd Bristol - "Disrupting Your View Of ME"

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic news - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Andy, Oct 25, 2017.

  1. ukxmrv

    ukxmrv Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    That's just extraordinary @JohnTheJack

    It's well worth just listening to her introduction I think if one cannot face the whole thing.

    Her Grandfather was a "war hero" and gave up a university place to fly she says. Given that there was a war which many young men sacrificed their lives and health to fight in that's a strange way to present it.

    Then her father was cruel and forced her to do frightening things. She was swept out to sea on one such occasion.

    I'm wondering if the appeal of the LP and associated crap is appealing to her inner neediness and she is inappropriately identifying her young patients physical illness with her own experience of emotional cruelty.

    Telling her story as she does is a cry for sympathy. She is maybe using her patients to get the attention for her own emotional problems?
     
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  2. Luther Blissett

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    My Grandfather was on the beaches at Normandy. His 'combat' training consisted of two rifle shots and one grenade toss. Before he was old enough to join the army, he did U-Boat patrols with a kitchen knife taped to a broom handle. I think that's pretty brave.

    He would have wanted me to speak up because he didn't like the vulnerable being attacked.

    He also believed I had ME and that it was not psychological.

    I won't be the only one with a Grandfather like this.

    Glad I've got official moral sanction to challenge Esther from her own words. I won't stop.
     
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  3. TiredSam

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    My great-aunt went to pick up her brother, my Uncle Jack, from the train station during the war. She found him on the platform staring into space.

    "What's the matter?" she asked him.

    He pointed at two military policemen and said "those two military policemen just came up to me and asked 'where's your jacket, soldier?' ".

    "What did you tell them?" asked my aunt.

    "On the beaches at Dunkirk."
     
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  4. Barry

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    She plays the tragic heroine to a tee. She has also equated herself to her heroic forbears, so she could then in the same breath, heavily imply that those opposing her are like the forces of evil that her ancestors fought against. One day, her behaviour will be her undoing.
     
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  6. Barry

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    Except she is much more cringe-worthy.
     
  7. Sean

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    Crawley is getting desperate.
     
  8. NelliePledge

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    Just gets more and more fake. Simpering like a teenager at the better science better data thing and now acting like some kind of fourth rate motivational speaker.

    Ricky Gervais post seems very apt given his cameo in Unrest saying ME is that one where you just feel like staying in bed. Which is basically whats behind her approach.

    I found the comment she made along the lines of now we are starting to make progress here and in America on the science totally nauseating - like she has anything to do with that.......
     
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  9. Alvin

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    I'd like to see the police reports and who was charged with harassment.
    Thats probably harassment just asking for evidence to back up statements made by a so called scientist.

    Before you know it alternative facts won't cut the mustard then science is really screwed because people will question why lies keep failing and demanding they be abandoned.
     
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  10. guest001

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    Crawley insists her grandfather 'gave up a scholarship to Oxford' which may or may not be true, but it implies that he gave up the opportunity to study and graduate from Oxford which is certainly (as certainly as Wiki can be assumed to be) not true. If this entry is correct not only did he attend Oxford but he graduated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Verity


    It was Hugh Verity's wife who gave up the scholarship at Oxford and possible glittering career to get married and have children instead - it would appear Crawley doesn't even know her own family history! https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/feb/14/wartime-marriage-love-in-a-harsh-climate
     
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  11. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Could have been masters/PhD?
     
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  12. guest001

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    I don't *think* the timeline is right for that.
     
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  13. large donner

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    I'm confused, surely two and more people could have given up scholarships at Oxford? Why do you think Crawleys Grandfather could not be one of many people who gave up a scholarship?
     
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  14. ukxmrv

    ukxmrv Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    or be called up anyway?
     
  15. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    Maybe he gave up a scholarship, but returned after the war and did his degree then.
     
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  16. Alvin

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    That is a reasonable possibility
     
  17. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Could timelines have been different for posh people back then? They were up to all sorts. Wikipedia said:

    Probably worth being extra cautious with stuff like this.
     
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    Perhaps the scholarship was for a Masters or PhD (or DPhil since it was at Oxford)?
     
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    Oh, I've just seen this!
     
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  20. guest001

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    Did you go to the link..the wiki link where it's made clear he attended and graduated from Oxford? I don't understand your question really.
     
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