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Esther Crawley gets 'commendation' at 2017 Maddox Prize awards.

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Esther12, Dec 1, 2017.

  1. Valentijn

    Valentijn Moderator Staff Member

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    Sense About Science probably just likes attracting attention by honoring "controversial" (aka abusive and fraudulent) nominees.
     
  2. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Aside from the fact that the organisation clearly does not respect their own professed standards.
     
  3. TiredSam

    TiredSam Moderator Staff Member

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    Would he really want to be associated with such a band of self-congratulatory self-serving ethically corrupt morally bankrupt malodorous imposters?

    I have already decided that if I am ever offered a knighthood I shall decline on principle, but I suppose each must act in such matters according to their own conscience.
     
  4. Valentijn

    Valentijn Moderator Staff Member

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    :neutral: :laughing:
     
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  5. arewenearlythereyet

    arewenearlythereyet Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    @TiredSam Do you have a view as to what contribution that your future knighthood would be in recognition of?

    I think you should graciously accept any offer to be in the big tent. While you are in there could you lobby to strip all the assets from the monarchy, modernise the House of Lords including removing the ability of the prime insisted to nominate his wife's hairdresser for a peerage and use the proceeds/savings to fund the NHS? I think hesseltine can go ...he never shows up anyway so doesn't really earn his money.
     
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  6. TiredSam

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    To be honest I haven't done anything that puts me in the running yet, I just like to be prepared for all eventualities.

    Probably simplest if I just refuse rather than join the establishment vowing to changing things from the inside. That could go horribly wrong.
     
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  7. Penelope McMillan

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    They're FOI "requests", not complaints, and they aren't fucking harassment. Sense About Science is looking more like another anti-patient group and less like clueless bystanders when they repeat this nonsense.[/QUOTE]

    Sense about Science has never been a clueless bystander.
     
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    I’m trying to get my head around why an organisation would give such a prize - what is the point of it? And this makes the most sense to me!
    Self serving organisation using self serving ‘scientists’ to self promote.
     
  9. Alice

    Alice New Member

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    True but one twitter account by one person is NOT
    harassment.
     
  10. Alice

    Alice New Member

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    Yes Alem should be nominated
     
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  11. Inara

    Inara Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I agree with @large donner. The agenda must be advanced "in the name of science". It's a bit like the nobel prize - it's political now, not scientific.

    I get more and more the feeling, we live in anti age of enlightenment. :(

    Here's a critical article about SAS, but an older one:
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/jan/05/sense-about-science-celebrity-observations

    I didn't find specifics, but the "About us" section shows in my opinion that certain interests are represented, and I am certain these are not scientific ones.

    http://archive.senseaboutscience.org/pages/board-of-trustees.html
    (See also "funding")

    Wesseley is a member of the advisory council.
     
  12. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Can't help thinking there's a lot of funny handshakes going on behind the scenes. Probably virtual funny handshakes these days.
     
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  13. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Probably sunshine as well, but that's not in shot thank god.
     
  14. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    [My bold]

    http://senseaboutscience.org/activities/the-john-maddox-prize/

    Errm ... where does EC engage with any difficult debates? Or example for others to follow? And as for the following bullet points, she has clearly pulled the wool over so many eyes.
    http://senseaboutscience.org/activities/maddox-nominations/

    Could we give serious consideration to nominating someone next year? There are a good few possibilities, and there should be enough ability available to us to construct a very convincing and well put together case. Even if it didn't get anywhere, it might help shed some light in darker corners.
     
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    Allele Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I feel quite certain that SaS is a PR arm of SMC.
     
  16. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    There we go then ... :rolleyes:.
     
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    Allele Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    As he was at the time he "won" the prize as well.
     
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  18. TiredSam

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    No way. Really? I suppose nothing should surprise me.
     
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  19. Allele

    Allele Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yes, really. Shame is not in his vocabulary, apparently.

    He confabulated the threats, got his fables into multiple news outlets, and then awarded himself a prize for courage in the face of
    scientific danger from disabled housebounders. Keep it classy, Sime.
     
  20. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    No "motivational chats" or brown nosing behind the scenes there then. It's so good to feel reassured by the system isn't it :rolleyes::sick:.
     
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